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A 2021-08-07 21:37:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, odd. |
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A* 2021-08-07 15:35:28 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbonium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbonium_vestiarium |
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I can't find another source that gives "button top" as a common name for this specific species. It usually refers to Umbonium vestiarium or just Umbonium snails in general. |
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-<gloss>button top (Umbonium costatum) (species of sea snail)</gloss>
+<gloss>Umbonium costatum (species of sea snail)</gloss> |
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A 2021-08-05 23:36:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj, Daijr, GG5, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbonium_costatum
細螺 364
きさご 1807
きしゃご 217
扁螺 < 20 - in GG5 and kokugos
喜佐古 33
キサゴ 1733 |
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Yes, しただみ is a recorded old reading, and it's also written 小羸子. I think it's best in its own entry as it would be complicated to handle here. |
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>扁螺</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>喜佐古</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
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+<r_ele>
+<reb>キサゴ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
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-<gloss>primitive gastropod mollusk (Umbonium costatum)</gloss>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>button top (Umbonium costatum) (species of sea snail)</gloss> |
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A* 2021-08-05 12:09:47 Frank <...address hidden...>
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Umbonium costatum is the translation in the 新和英大辞典。 |
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This shell habitat is mainly around Japan and the shell is well reported in Japanese literature due to its resemblance with abacus' stones. The present translation "periwinkle" refers to Littorina littorea which is a European shell
of different shape, different color and different family.
In addition "periwinkle" without any mention could also refer to the flower Vinca major or Vinca minor and the associated color, and this has absolutely no relationship to Umbonium costatum and 細螺 きさご;きしゃご
In addition, there is an old Japanese reading of 細螺 which is しただに. I am not sure about the dictionary's policy as to old Japanese readings, so I leave it to the editing person. |
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-<gloss>periwinkle</gloss>
+<gloss>primitive gastropod mollusk (Umbonium costatum)</gloss> |