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良くないね
【 よくないね 】
1. [int] [uk]
▶ (that's) no good, is it?
2. [n] [uk]
▶ dislike (on social media, etc.)
▶ thumbs-down
▶ downvote
Cross references:
  ⇒ ant: 2829960 いいね 2. like (on social media)



History:
19. A 2021-07-21 23:58:35  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
>> I think calling it "entirely hypothetical" is demonstrably false based on the numerous refs I've already posted.
I'm saying that it's only the most common term when referring to hypothetical dislikes. On sites that actually have such a feature (e.g. YouTube, Yahoo News), it's not the favoured term. Compare Twitter results for "ヤフコメ よくないね" and "ヤフコメ そう思わない", or "Youtube 低評価" and "Youtube よくないね".
>> I think that SNS dislike/downvote buttons exist to roughly the same extent in both the West and in Japan 
I was using quite a strict definition of "social media" that wouldn't include sites like YouTube. As far as I know, dislikes are not a thing (or very rarely a thing) on "traditional" social media sites (due to concerns about bullying, etc.)
>> see the twitter results for よくないねボタン
It's reasonably common, yes, but so is 低評価ボタン (slightly more so than よくないねボタン by my count — and a lot of the results aren't YouTube-related).
  Diff: 
@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss>dislike (i.e. on social media)</gloss>
+<gloss>dislike (on social media, etc.)</gloss>
18. A 2021-07-21 02:53:37  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Yes, it's probably appropriate to call time on this one. As I said a few days back "I was going to sit this one out". I can see both sides of the discussion, but I think when it comes to the crunch I'd rather err on the side of inclusion.

For some reason, I am reminded of an over-long and doubtless apocryphal story that I heard from a late academic colleague:
A mathematics professor was in the midst of a long elucidation of some complex formulae on the blackboard, and reached a point where he said "Now, it's obvious that ...". Then he paused, scratched his head, look worried, and after a few minutes left the lecture hall, saying "I'll be back soon!". After about 20 minutes he returned, beaming. "I was right", he said. "It IS obvious ...".
17. A* 2021-07-21 01:27:27  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
I think calling it "entirely hypothetical" is demonstrably false based on the numerous refs I've already posted. I 
think that SNS dislike/downvote buttons exist to roughly the same extent in both the West and in Japan, and although 
they aren't used by the the "Big 3" (Twitter/Facebook/Instagram), they exist on several other major sites already 
mentioned. But even if it were indeed 100% hypothetical, I don't see the issue with that. I think our job as 
dictionary editors is to determine whether the word exists/is used, not to what extent the concept it describes is 
real. Again, I agree that this has not been established as THE word for a "dislike" that's known by each and 
everyone but that seems irrelevant to me when it is 1) as commonly used as it is, again see the twitter results for 
よくないねボタン - we've added plenty of words with way less "tweetits" than that - and 2) it's by far the most common 
word for this of the several other ones we've come across.
16. A* 2021-07-20 23:51:10  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
It's the most common way of referring to an *entirely hypothetical* social media "dislike". Social media platforms do not have dislike buttons, so it isn't surprising that people would use the exact negation of the existing "いいね" to discuss "dislikes" as a potential feature. In contexts where it's not merely hypothetical, よくないね is very obscure. As long as it's mainly just a way of referring to a feature that doesn't exist, I don't think it's worth recording.
I'm not going to press this any further so unless anyone else wants to add their thoughts, Jim (or another editor) can close this.
15. A* 2021-07-19 13:19:13  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
Robin: "嫌いボタン" gets twice as many Google hits as "よくないねボタン", so it's not the only way of expressing 
this concept.
tweets past 24hrs:

よくないねボタン 11
嫌いボタン 1
  Comments: 
I expressed myself clumsily, apologies. I do however think I've sufficiently proven that this is by far the most 
common Japanese word for a social media dislike in general, and that it's fairly commonly used across several 
different social media platforms and in the news media. I agree it's probably not really in everyday parlance as 
of now but considering how frequently it IS used online, I really don't see the issue.
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