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jmdict 1467650 Active (id: 2115680)
猫に小判ネコに小判
ねこにこばん (猫に小判)ネコにこばん (ネコに小判)
1. [exp] [id]
▶ casting pearls before swine
▶ [lit] (giving) a gold coin to a cat
Cross references:
  ⇔ see: 1457400 豚に真珠 1. casting pearls before swine



History:
12. A 2021-07-13 23:29:30  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
11. A* 2021-07-13 13:13:49  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
豚に真珠	18786
猫に小判	33149
  Comments:
We do usually include lit glosses for idiomatic expressions like this (where the imagery is different from that of the equivalent English expression).
I think the x-ref is fine. We could also add an x-ref to 豚に真珠 pointing here.
  Diff:
@@ -20 +20 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1457400">豚に真珠・ぶたにしんじゅ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1457400">豚に真珠</xref>
@@ -22,2 +22,2 @@
-<gloss>pearls cast before swine</gloss>
-<gloss>great waste</gloss>
+<gloss>casting pearls before swine</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">(giving) a gold coin to a cat</gloss>
10. A 2021-07-12 23:50:00  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
It's case-by-case but we'd usually include a literal version if the expression is also used with that meaning. In this case, it doesn't seem to happen. The xref is possibly useful to indicate that there's an alternative equivalent expression.
9. A* 2021-06-25 13:23:48 
  Comments:
Is there a rule for which idioms should have 
literal translations and which shouldn't, 
then? Because deciding it's "no use" here 
seems rather arbitrary to me.
this is more common than 豚に真珠 so I don't 
think the xref is helpful.
8. A 2021-06-25 11:54:24  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I don't think an xref to 小判 or the literal translation is much use.
ルミナス xrefs to 豚に真珠; maybe that's better.
  Diff:
@@ -20 +20 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1348670">小判・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1457400">豚に真珠・ぶたにしんじゅ</xref>
@@ -24 +23,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">(giving a) gold coin to a cat</gloss>
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