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破落戸
【ごろつき [gikun] ；ゴロツキ (nokanji) 】

[n] [uk]
▶ rogue
▶ thug
▶ hoodlum
▶ punk
▶ racketeer

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1637810 ならず者 1. ruffian; scoundrel; rogue; rascal; villain; hoodlum; thug
	⇐ see: 2841962 ゴロ 1. racketeer; thug; rogue; bully; fixer
	⇐ see: 2785520 会社ゴロ【かいしゃゴロ】 1. extortionist that blackmail corporations; corporate shakedown artist

History:

11.	A 2021-05-24 04:27:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Noone seems to be objecting.
10.	A* 2021-05-19 00:44:10 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I really think 無頼 doesn't fit here. Rene added it 2 years ago based on shinmeikai but no other reference has it, and it's already an entry on its own: (無頼（ぶらい） (adj-no,adj-na,n) (1) villainous; rascally; knavish; (adj-no,adj-na,n) (2) (arch) independent; self-reliant)
	Diff:	@@ -6,3 +5,0 @@ -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>無頼</keb> @@ -19,0 +17 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1637810">ならず者</xref>
9.	A 2021-05-16 22:23:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Well that's usually the case but I don't think it's mandatory. It might be useful to have a tag for kanji applied to a term but which don't spell out the reading. We could use "ateji" as do many references, but it grates a bit.
8.	A* 2021-05-16 05:44:30 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Doesn't gikun imply that the kanji came first, and the reading later?
7.	A 2021-05-16 00:25:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	No reaction; closing.
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6.	A* 2021-05-11 05:53:02 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Koj: (「破落戸」と書くのは当て字) Daijr: 〔「破落戸」の字を当てることもある〕明鏡: 「〈破落戸〉」と当てた。 Wikipedia: 「破落戸」「無頼」の字を当てる場合がある。
	Comments:	As can be seen, the kokugos all label 破落戸 as 当て字. We usually try and take a firmer line on this tag and restrict it to matching kanji readings, which is not the case here. I suggest we drop it from the kanji forms and tag ごろつき as gikun (義訓). Possibly we need to (re)think the policy on this - I don't like loose use of 当て字 tags but certainly going with the flow is easier.
	Diff:	@@ -6 +5,0 @@ -<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> @@ -10 +8,0 @@ -<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> @@ -13,0 +12 @@ +<re_inf>&gikun;</re_inf>
5.	A* 2021-05-11 05:12:51 EM <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I am not going to edit this entry, just leaving a comment. I am pretty sure the two kanji representations of the word are not ateji--they are not borrowed kanji for the pronunciation.
4.	A 2019-10-30 19:56:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
3.	A* 2019-10-30 15:18:06 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	shinmeikai
	Diff:	@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@ +<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>無頼</keb>
2.	A 2014-01-31 07:26:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Ngrams.
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<re_nokanji/>
1.	A* 2014-01-31 07:10:43 Chris Vasselli <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	実用日本語表現辞典、難読語辞典
	Diff:	@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@ +</r_ele> +<r_ele> +<reb>ゴロツキ</reb>

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