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A 2021-03-31 02:26:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
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A* 2021-03-30 17:19:46 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daijr
延べ竿 4500
のべ竿 6822 |
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I think we can split it into two senses.
The kokugos also have a non-fishing sense. |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>のべ竿</keb>
+</k_ele>
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-<gloss>jointless fishing rod, usu. with no reel and the line connected to the tip</gloss>
+<gloss>fishing rod with the line connected to the tip (i.e. without a reel or guides)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
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+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1579450">三味線</xref>
+<gloss>one-piece shamisen neck</gloss> |
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A* 2021-03-29 00:22:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Maybe this works. Certainly this seems to be the modern usage. |
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+<gloss>jointless fishing rod, usu. with no reel and the line connected to the tip</gloss>
@@ -13 +13,0 @@
-<gloss>jointless fishing rod</gloss> |
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A* 2021-03-28 08:48:47 MarcusAseth <...address hidden...>
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https://fishingjapan.jp/fishing/8315
https://tsurihack.com/1618
http://hisayukitakuko.web.fc2.com/rod.jpg |
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from the first link:延べ竿とは、ラインを通すガイドの付いていないロッドのことです。
from the second link: 延べ竿(のべ竿)とは、竿先にそのまま糸を結んで使う釣竿の総称。
the third link visually shows the difference, also the other links I've found and the images results from google image all agree that the fact it doesn't use a reel or guide and that the line is linked to the tip is what sets it apart
The second link also go on on saying: 元々は継ぎがなく、竹などのを用いた1本の釣り竿のことを指し、リールを取り付ける部分や、糸を通すガイドはありません。現在では技術の進歩とともに、伸縮できる振出タイプになっています。
Therefore I tend to believe that even the j-j entry from the dictionaries are not up to date with this item |
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A 2021-03-28 08:13:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, ルミナス |
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-<gloss>bamboo fishing rod</gloss>
-<gloss>fishing rod that has the line connected to the tip</gloss>
+<gloss>fishing rod made of a single piece of bamboo</gloss>
+<gloss>jointless fishing rod</gloss> |
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A* 2021-03-28 07:47:30 MarcusAseth <...address hidden...>
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https://www.fishing-labo.net/modules/xwords/word599_1.htm
https://tsurihack.com/1618
https://kotobank.jp/word/延べ竿-597251 |