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A 2020-10-31 00:37:13 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-10-30 17:19:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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-<s_inf>brand-name methamphetamine</s_inf>
-<gloss>Philopon</gloss>
+<field>&tradem;</field>
+<gloss>Philopon (brand of methamphetamine)</gloss>
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+<xref type="see" seq="1133480">メタンフェタミン</xref> |
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A 2019-03-11 06:03:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Closing |
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A* 2019-03-07 03:28:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Reopen. |
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A 2019-03-07 03:27:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'll lock down Richard's suggestion, which I think works OK, and reopen for further discussion, if any. |
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-<s_inf>from the registered trademark Philopon</s_inf>
+<s_inf>brand-name methamphetamine</s_inf>
+<gloss>Philopon</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>generic usage</s_inf>
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A* 2019-03-07 01:47:09 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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The Wikipedia article titled メタンフェタミン says "ヒロポン® (Philopon) とは、...". The ® symbol after the word ヒロポン implies that ヒロポン is a registered trademark.
The proposed JMdict definition says Philopon is a registered trademark, but doesn't say that ヒロポン is. It defines ヒロポン as a common noun (methamphetamine) *derived from* a proper noun (the brand name Philopon), not as a
word that can itself be a proper noun.
I think the ルミナス和英辞典 definition is not bad: ヒロポン (商標名) Philopon; (薬品名) methamphetamine.
How would you do that in JMdict? Maybe like this?
[1][n]
[note="brand-name methamphetamine"]
Philopon
[2][n]
[note="generic usage"]
methamphetamine; meth |
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A* 2019-03-06 21:38:59 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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You don't think that's conveyed by the current note? |
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A* 2019-03-06 00:27:36 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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I think it's good to cut out all the encyclopedic stuff, but the proposed abbreviated definition doesn't clearly indicate that ヒロポン is a brand name, which seems like an important detail. The Wikipedia
article says メタンフェタミンは、[...]日本では商品名ヒロポン®で販売されるが[3]、... |
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A* 2019-03-05 23:40:59 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I don't think we need that much information, it gets a little encyclopedic. How's this? It matches what's in prog: "methamphetamine (▼
ヒロポンは商標名) " |
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-<gloss>Philopon, brand of methamphetamine produced since 1941 by Dainippon Pharmaceuticals (大日本製薬) and its successor Sumitomo Dainippon Pharma (大日本住友製薬), restricted by the Stimulants Control Law of 1951 to limited use in medical institutions</gloss>
-<gloss>also, a generic term for methamphetamine</gloss>
+<s_inf>from the registered trademark Philopon</s_inf>
+<gloss>methamphetamine</gloss> |
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A* 2019-03-05 22:06:47 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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1) It wasn't always banned. It was widely used legally 1941-1951 (notably, by the Japanese military). It's still sold legally, under strict conditions.
ヒロポン（メタンフェタミン系製剤 ）
1941年（昭和16年）の発売当初は一般用医薬品として市販されていたが、1951年（昭和26年）以降、「覚せい剤取締法」で原則的には禁止薬物に指定された。施行後は、同法で特別の許可を受けた医療機関に対してのみの販売となっている。
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/大日本住友製薬
2) Generic usage:
【ヒロポン患者】a methamphetamine [((俗)) meth, speed] addict
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/en/ヒロポン患者/
リーダーズ+プラス : speed [...] 2 《俗》 (静脈注射する)中枢神経刺激剤, 覚醒剤, スピード, 《特に》ヒロポン (meth).
ルミナス和英辞典 : ヒロポン 〔薬〕 (商標名) Philopon; (薬品名) methamphetamine |
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-<gloss>Philopon (banned Japanese brand-name methamphetamine)</gloss>
+<gloss>Philopon, brand of methamphetamine produced since 1941 by Dainippon Pharmaceuticals (大日本製薬) and its successor Sumitomo Dainippon Pharma (大日本住友製薬), restricted by the Stimulants Control Law of 1951 to limited use in medical institutions</gloss>
+<gloss>also, a generic term for methamphetamine</gloss> |
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Entry created |