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A 2020-09-21 21:16:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'm comfortable with that. |
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A* 2020-09-21 18:05:17 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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wiki: "In linguistics, homonyms, broadly defined, are words which are homographs (words that share the same spelling, regardless of pronunciation) or homophones (words that share the same pronunciation, regardless of spelling), or both. For example, according to this definition, the words row (propel with oars), row (argument) and row (a linear arrangement) are homonyms, as are the words see (vision) and sea (body of water).
A more restrictive or technical definition sees homonyms as words that are simultaneously homographs and homophones[1] – that is to say they have identical spelling and pronunciation, whilst maintaining different meanings. Examples are the pair stalk (part of a plant) and stalk (follow/harass a person) and the pair left (past tense of leave) and left (opposite of right)." |
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Only according to the more restrictive definition do homonyms need to be spelt the same. That being said, since the broad definition of "homonym" includes pairs of words that don't have the same pronunciation, I think we should lead with "homophone".
I don't think that x-ref is needed. |
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A* 2020-09-21 05:28:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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医学英和辞典, GG5, 中辞典, ルミナス - all have "homonym".
OTOH, Daijirin just xrefs to 同音語 (homophone)
リーダーズ+プラス defines "homonym" as 同音異義語, and gives "pail" and "pale" as examples. It defines "homophone" as 同音字, but goes on to mention 同音異義語.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/homograph-vs-homophone-vs-homonym/ |
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I think we need to keep "homonym". The question is do we have "homophone" as well? |
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A* 2020-09-21 00:19:10 christen gottschlich <...address hidden...>
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https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/同音異義語/#jn-155099
- Digital Daijisen |
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Daijisen's examples of douon'igigo are all "same reading different kanji". Additionally, the definition only mentions sound/pronunciation being the same. Homonyms must be both pronounced AND spelled the same. Homophones only require the pronunciation to be the same. |
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A 2012-08-05 03:05:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-08-04 16:05:38 Nils Roland Barth <...address hidden...>
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