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A 2020-08-29 08:15:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Trimming & standardizing. |
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@@ -11 +11 @@
-<s_inf>following adjective stem</s_inf>
+<s_inf>following adj. stem</s_inf>
@@ -20 +20 @@
-<s_inf>following adjective stem or noun</s_inf>
+<s_inf>following adj. stem or noun</s_inf> |
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A 2019-11-08 22:55:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2019-11-08 22:45:42 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Probably don't need the second half of the note.
Daijr says "一部の名詞に付いて" for sense 2. |
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@@ -11 +11 @@
-<s_inf>following adjective stem to represent another's apparent emotion</s_inf>
+<s_inf>following adjective stem</s_inf>
@@ -20 +20 @@
-<s_inf>on nouns also</s_inf>
+<s_inf>following adjective stem or noun</s_inf> |
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A* 2019-11-08 05:37:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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(a) I don't mind the note on sense 1, but I liked "on adj-stem" for brevity.
(b) possibly a note and xref would help sense 2. |
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+<xref type="see" seq="1928810">得意がる・とくいがる</xref>
+<s_inf>on nouns also</s_inf> |
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A* 2019-11-08 01:49:35 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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is the full note necessary on sense 1? seems obvious from the glosses. and doesn't sense 2 (at a minimum) also apply to nouns? |
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A* 2019-11-07 23:33:14 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daij, koj |
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This is a suffix in all the kokugos.
I suggest dropping sense 3 (which isn't in the kokugos). It's always たがる and we already have an entry for that. |
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@@ -9 +9 @@
-<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -11 +11 @@
-<s_inf>on adj-stem to represent another's apparent emotion</s_inf>
+<s_inf>following adjective stem to represent another's apparent emotion</s_inf>
@@ -17 +17 @@
-<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -23,9 +22,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
-<pos>&v5r;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2122940">たがる</xref>
-<gloss>to want</gloss>
-<gloss>to desire</gloss>
-<gloss>to be anxious to</gloss>
-<gloss>to be eager to</gloss>
-</sense> |
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A 2019-06-24 22:39:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2019-06-23 16:57:07 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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@@ -9 +9 @@
-<pos>&suf;</pos>
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
@@ -17 +17 @@
-<pos>&suf;</pos>
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
@@ -24 +24 @@
-<pos>&suf;</pos>
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos> |
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A 2018-03-20 02:27:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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中辞典: 〈…と感じる〉 feel; 〈したいと思う〉 want; 《文》 desire; 〈ふりをする〉 pretend
ルミナス: (…したいと思う) want [他]; desire [他]; (…しやすい) be apt to do…; (ふりをする) pretend [他] |
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A month on and no more feedback.
Both those other JEs seem to be backing sense 3. I'll make the note on sense 1 a bit more general. |
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-<s_inf>on adj-stem to represent a third party's apparent emotion</s_inf>
+<s_inf>on adj-stem to represent another's apparent emotion</s_inf> |
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A* 2018-02-22 01:26:21 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I don't think "to represent a third party's apparent
emotion" is entirely correct, but we might want to check
with a native speaker. I'm under the impression that you
can use it to describe the feelings of a second party as
well, e.g. "お前、めっちゃ悔しがってるやん" or "お前、かな
り欲しがってるじゃん" (both of these get a handful of
google hits)
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Also I think sense 3 doesn't belong here because it's
strictly about the たがる usage. I can't come up with any
usage without た(い) with this meaning. |
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A 2016-11-04 11:28:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-11-04 10:46:46 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams: 3245719 |
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+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> |
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A 2013-08-27 23:02:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think the GG5 "たがる" sense is saying that sometimes がる means the same as たがる, but it doesn't give an example. If it only occurs with the "た", then it doesn't belong here, as it's covered by the たがる entry. The xref is probably sufficient. |
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A* 2013-08-27 21:45:52 Scott
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That looks great. We could perhaps add a note to [3] specifying that that sense only occurs when a ーたい verb ending is modified into ーたがる? You already have a link to たがる, but there could still be some confusion. |
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A* 2013-08-27 06:49:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'm not at all sure of the POS here. I feel it probably should be aux-v, like たがる. I see 大辞林 has "助動" for たがる, and "接尾: 動詞五［四］段型活用" for がる. I think I can see why, but I feel a little uncomfortable. |
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A 2013-08-27 06:29:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2013-08-27 05:44:13 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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gg5, koj, daij, prog
kokugos have only 2 senses. gg5 adds the たがる sense |
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the other examples of がる use you list above (e.g. こわがる) are idiomatic. いきたがる is just a construction. it should be deleted, i think |
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-<gloss>to feel (on adj-stem to represent a third party's apparent emotion)</gloss>
-<gloss>to want</gloss>
-<gloss>to be anxious to</gloss>
-<gloss>to be eager to</gloss>
-<gloss>to show signs of</gloss>
+<s_inf>on adj-stem to represent a third party's apparent emotion</s_inf>
+<gloss>to show signs of being</gloss>
+<gloss>to feel</gloss>
+<gloss>to think</gloss>
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+<gloss>to pretend</gloss>
+<gloss>to act as if</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
+<pos>&v5r;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2122940">たがる</xref>
+<gloss>to want</gloss>
+<gloss>to desire</gloss>
+<gloss>to be anxious to</gloss>
+<gloss>to be eager to</gloss> |
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A* 2013-08-27 00:34:22 Scott
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gg5 http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/signs |
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1) This is a little bit of a mess. It's often explained as "to show signs of (wanting)" It's a grammar structure so perhaps we should expand the explanation a bit to say it can also be attached to verbs. 2)I'm having slight misgivings about asking to delete 行きたがる since こわがる,嫌がる and はずかしがる are also in edict. |
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+<gloss>to want</gloss>
+<gloss>to be anxious to</gloss>
+<gloss>to be eager to</gloss>
+<gloss>to show signs of</gloss> |