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A 2020-04-21 00:39:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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That seems reasonable. |
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A* 2020-04-20 22:17:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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On second thought, it might be worth having a second sense. In the context of Japanese, 学校文法 refers to a whole system for describing grammar, and its use isn't restricted to schools. |
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-<gloss>school grammar (esp. middle school grammar)</gloss>
+<gloss>school grammar</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>system of Japanese grammar used in Japanese schools and dictionaries</gloss> |
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A* 2020-04-20 10:56:25 dine <...address hidden...>
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not particularly Japanese: http://jiten.cside3.jp/efl_dictionaries/efl_dictionaries_01.htm
「『行ったことがある』の意味には、have been in を用いて、 have gone to を用いてはならない」という学校文法の鉄則も見えている。 |
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Japanese school grammar is also called "traditional Japanese grammar". For example, section 13.5a of
Samuel E Martin's "A Reference Grammar of Japanese" begins with the following remarks:
"In traditional Japanese grammar the adjectival nouns are called keiyoo-dooshi 'adjectival verbs' [...]" |
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-<gloss>(Japanese) school grammar</gloss>
-<gloss>traditional Japanese grammar</gloss>
+<gloss>school grammar (esp. middle school grammar)</gloss> |
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A 2020-04-17 01:33:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I agree with Robin. That's taking it too far in the encyclopedia direction. |
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-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<field>&ling;</field>
-<s_inf>学校文法 classifies ます, ない, etc. as auxiliary verbs and na-adjectives as adjectival verbs</s_inf>
-<gloss>Japanese school grammar</gloss>
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-<gloss g_type="expl">the grammar based on Shinkichi Hashimoto's work and employed by schools and dictionaries in Japan</gloss> |
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A* 2020-04-16 14:57:14 dine <...address hidden...>
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it may help learners since the grammatical terminology used in kokugos is very different from that in 日本語教育 materials
also, school grammars of other languages are also called 学校文法 according to Daijisen:
https://kotobank.jp/word/学校文法-683300 |
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A* 2020-04-16 13:38:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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koj: "日本の学校教育で教える日本語の文法。教科文法。" |
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I don't think we need that level of detail for a dictionary entry. It's really just one sense. |
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-<gloss>school grammar (esp. middle school grammar)</gloss>
+<gloss>(Japanese) school grammar</gloss> |
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A* 2020-04-15 11:07:28 dine <...address hidden...>
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https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/学校文法 |
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+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<field>&ling;</field>
+<s_inf>学校文法 classifies ます, ない, etc. as auxiliary verbs and na-adjectives as adjectival verbs</s_inf>
+<gloss>Japanese school grammar</gloss>
+<gloss>traditional Japanese grammar</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">the grammar based on Shinkichi Hashimoto's work and employed by schools and dictionaries in Japan</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A 2008-04-01 00:00:00
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Entry created |