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1. |
[v5k,vt]
▶ to hear |
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2. |
[v5k,vt]
《esp. 聴く》 ▶ to listen (e.g. to music) |
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3. |
[v5k,vt]
《聴く is used in legal and official contexts》 ▶ to ask ▶ to enquire ▶ to query
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4. |
[v5k,vt]
▶ to hear about ▶ to hear of ▶ to learn of |
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5. |
[v5k,vt]
▶ to follow (advice, order, etc.) ▶ to obey ▶ to listen to ▶ to comply with |
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6. |
[v5k,vt]
▶ to hear (e.g. a plea) ▶ to grant (a request) ▶ to accept (e.g. an argument) ▶ to give consideration to |
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7. |
[v5k,vt]
▶ to smell (esp. incense) ▶ to sample (a fragrance)
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8. |
[v5k,vt]
《also 利く》 ▶ to taste (alcohol) ▶ to try
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13. | A 2020-02-24 00:16:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Splitting off 訊く and removing all those restrictions. Daijr, etc. have 聞く and 聴く merged. |
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Diff: | @@ -12,4 +11,0 @@ -<k_ele> -<keb>訊く</keb> -<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> -</k_ele> @@ -22 +17,0 @@ -<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -42 +36,0 @@ -<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -50 +43,0 @@ -<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -59 +51,0 @@ -<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -68 +59,0 @@ -<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -76 +66,0 @@ -<stagk>聞く</stagk> |
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12. | A* 2020-01-17 22:30:49 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | For 聴く, I'm not sure which option is best but I definitely think 訊く would be better as a separate entry. |
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11. | A* 2020-01-17 08:06:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
10. | A 2020-01-17 08:06:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | With 6 of the 8 senses restricted to 聞く, including sense 1, I wonder if 聴く and 訊く should be moved out. I'll approve and reopen. |
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9. | A* 2020-01-16 21:39:20 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | daij, meikyo, gg5, prog |
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Comments: | That restriction means that only 訊く is used for sense 3, which isn't correct. The only way to indicate that 訊く only applies to sense 3 is to add restrictions to all the other senses. A cleaner solution (and what I propose) is to split 訊く out into its own entry which points here. Most of the refs don't include it as a headword, only as a "「訊く」とも書く" note. --- I've added a couple of senses. |
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Diff: | @@ -21,0 +22 @@ +<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -29 +30 @@ -<s_inf>usu. 聴く</s_inf> +<s_inf>esp. 聴く</s_inf> @@ -33 +33,0 @@ -<stagk>訊く</stagk> @@ -36 +36 @@ -<s_inf>聴く is more formal</s_inf> +<s_inf>聴く is used in legal and official contexts</s_inf> @@ -41,0 +42 @@ +<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -43,0 +45,2 @@ +<gloss>to hear about</gloss> +<gloss>to hear of</gloss> @@ -45 +47,0 @@ -<gloss>to hear about</gloss> @@ -47,0 +50 @@ +<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -50 +53,3 @@ -<gloss>to follow (advice)</gloss> +<gloss>to follow (advice, order, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>to obey</gloss> +<gloss>to listen to</gloss> @@ -55 +60,9 @@ -<stagk>聴く</stagk> +<pos>&v5k;</pos> +<pos>&vt;</pos> +<gloss>to hear (e.g. a plea)</gloss> +<gloss>to grant (a request)</gloss> +<gloss>to accept (e.g. an argument)</gloss> +<gloss>to give consideration to</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<stagk>聞く</stagk> @@ -60 +73,9 @@ -<gloss>to sample fragrance</gloss> +<gloss>to sample (a fragrance)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<stagk>聞く</stagk> +<pos>&v5k;</pos> +<pos>&vt;</pos> +<s_inf>also 利く</s_inf> +<gloss>to taste (alcohol)</gloss> +<gloss>to try</gloss> |
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