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A 2020-01-23 23:56:10 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Thanks for the correction on the n-grams. I was aware of that but wasn't thinking carefully when I made that comment/observation.
I see now that 猫背な is favoured over 猫背の in certain cases so I don't have problem with including adj-na. |
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A 2020-01-23 11:28:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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~20 instances of adj-na usage in the past 24 hours on Twitter
猫背のあなた 33
猫背なあなた 1760
猫背の私 525
猫背な私 400
猫背の感じ 27
猫背な感じ 210
猫背の背中 261 |
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In a forked thread Alan Cheng wrote:
I agree that a lot of the 猫背な hits are from non-adj-na usages, so I dug a little deeper into the data for
猫背な. FWIW I initially suggested this amendment because I came across it in a book (in the form 猫背な背中).
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GG5, etc. show it's really 猫背の, but as often is the case a lot of people use ~な. I think it's worth reflecting this usage. |
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+<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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A* 2020-01-22 22:04:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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猫背な 10465
猫背など 2040
猫背なら 102
猫背なので 1454
猫背な私 400
猫背なのは 313
猫背なハンバーグ 303
猫背なのです 254
猫背なのに 253
猫背なのか 251
猫背なのが 219 |
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Re "A lot of those 〜な counts are for など, なん, なら, etc."
This is not actually the case. The n-gram counts are based on morphemes, and など, なら, etc. are distinct morphemes.
A text sequence such as "猫背など姿勢が悪いと" is segmented as "猫背 + など + 姿勢 + が + 悪い + と" and would not be included in the 猫背な count.
The highish 猫背な is probably coming from other sources, some of which I've included. E.g. 猫背なのは is segmented as 猫背 + な + の + は.
(I'll close this comment after a while.) |
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A 2020-01-22 11:56:25 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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猫背の人 2208
猫背の男 487
猫背な人 99
猫背な男 No matches |
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I don't agree in this case. None of the refs have this as adj-na, and adj-na usage isn't especially common.
A lot of those 〜な counts are for など, なん, なら, etc. |
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-<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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A* 2020-01-22 09:19:24 Alan Cheng <...address hidden...>
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猫背 222457
猫背の 25474
猫背な 10465 |
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A 2017-11-02 04:21:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2017-11-02 04:03:21 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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i i think i accepted assuming it was itaiji, but it's not. in theory there's nothing wrong with it, but it can probably go |
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-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>猫脊</keb>
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A 2017-11-02 03:56:54 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2017-11-01 11:48:24 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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猫脊 isn't in the refs. Very few non-Chinese hits. Not sure we need it. |
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A 2011-01-17 00:34:14 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2011-01-16 22:16:53 Scott
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>猫脊</keb> |