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A 2019-12-05 06:07:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Thanks for that digging. Some of the captions I saw were Japanese, but when I inspected more deeply they were misaligned with Chinese. I'll pull that proposed sense. |
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-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1007530">乳切り木・ちぎりき</xref>
-<s_inf>esp. 連枷</s_inf>
-<gloss>flail (weapon)</gloss>
-</sense> |
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A* 2019-12-05 00:24:31 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/连枷
连枷 = simplified chinese version of 連枷
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/唐棹
西洋では唐棹状の農具を元にしたフレイルと言う打撃武器が開発され、甲冑を身に纏い、剣では有効な打撃を与えることが難しい重装騎兵に対する対抗手段として大いに普及した。沖縄のヌンチャクも、唐棹をもとに考案されたと言われている。日本ではお殻打ち棒といわれ、竿と短い棒を連結していた金具は鉄鎖、短い棒は鉄造りとなった。 |
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when i do a google image search, the weapon hits appear to be coming pretty much entirely from chinese. when i add a の onto the search to force it into japanese, they all drop out. wikipedia suggests お殻打ち棒 for the weapon, but that gets very few hits |
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A* 2019-12-03 06:04:54 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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連枷 851
殻竿 439
WWW images for 連枷 show quite a few flail-type waepons. |
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A messy merge. 殻竿/からざお is in the JEs whereas 連枷 is only in the kokugos, and all they have in common is the 連枷 surface form. But according to the n-grams 連枷 is more common, possibly because the weapon usage pops up in manga, etc. |
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+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1007530">ちぎりぎ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1007530">乳切り木・ちぎりき</xref>
+<s_inf>esp. 連枷</s_inf>
+<gloss>flail (weapon)</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A* 2019-12-02 21:57:37 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij, nikk
nikk
れん‐か【連枷・連架】 |
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we have a nonsense entry for れんか[連架]. nikk suggests it means the same thing as れんか[連枷], which is this. it could either be merged here or there could be two entries:
殻竿;連枷;唐竿;唐棹
からざお/からさお
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連枷;連架
れんか |
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@@ -7,0 +8,6 @@
+<keb>連枷</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>唐竿</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -11 +17 @@
-<keb>連枷</keb>
+<keb>連架</keb>
@@ -14,0 +21,4 @@
+<re_restr>殻竿</re_restr>
+<re_restr>連枷</re_restr>
+<re_restr>唐竿</re_restr>
+<re_restr>唐棹</re_restr>
@@ -17,0 +28,9 @@
+<re_restr>殻竿</re_restr>
+<re_restr>連枷</re_restr>
+<re_restr>唐竿</re_restr>
+<re_restr>唐棹</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>れんか</reb>
+<re_restr>連枷</re_restr>
+<re_restr>連架</re_restr> |