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ナイーブ [gai1] ナイーヴ
1. [adj-na,n] Source lang: eng "naive"
▶ innocent
▶ sensitive
▶ uncomplicated
▶ unpretentious
▶ straightforward



History:
5. A 2019-09-08 05:08:19  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
中辞典: 日本語で「ナイーブ」は「子供のように素直な」の意味で使われるが, naive は「世間知らずの」「だまされやす
い」のような意味で使われることが多い.
  Comments:
As per the ref, I think it's safer to leave "naive" out of the glosses.
4. A* 2019-09-08 02:30:00  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
21972 ngrams; wikipedia redirect
  Comments:
i also disagree that naive should be removed as a gloss
  Diff:
@@ -6,0 +7,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ナイーヴ</reb>
3. A 2017-12-01 22:00:02  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I have added an alternative English sentence and linked it instead.
2. A* 2017-12-01 08:10:11  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
daij, prog
  Comments:
I know the comment was about the example sentence, but I 
agree with the sentiment that "naive" is very rarely an 
accurate translation of ナイーブ, to the extent I think 
keeping it in is misleading.
  Diff:
@@ -11 +11 @@
-<gloss>naive</gloss>
+<lsource xml:lang="eng">naive</lsource>
1. A* 2017-12-01 04:48:51  Kevin Johnson
  Comments:
The example sentence is mistranslated. ナイーブ is almost 
never used to mean "naive" in the English sense. It's 
almost exclusively used to mean 純粋で傷つきやすいさま -- 
in other words, "You're surprisingly sensitive" would be a 
much more accurate translation than "You're so naive." 
(Where does the "so" even come from?)

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