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《with neg. verb》 ▶ (not) anyone ▶ (not) a single person ▶ no one ▶ nobody |
17. | A 2019-09-08 00:57:36 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I'd just like to add that we include "no one"/"nobody" here for the same reason other JE dictionaries do: it's helpful. These are the most common English translations. It's the same with 誰も. "誰も知らない" translates to "no one knows", not "everyone doesn't know". This difference in structure between English and Japanese is not especially difficult to grasp, especially in context. I think excluding these glosses would actually be more confusing to a leaner. |
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16. | A 2019-09-07 20:34:40 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | koj: (下に打消の語を伴う)どの人も。一人として。「―気がつかない」 gg5: だれ一人(…ない) no one; nobody; 《not》 anyone [anybody]. |
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Comments: | "with neg. verb" is our way of indicating 下に打消の語を伴う as in koj or (…ない) as in gg5 I am restoring the version that was approved by Robin, Jim, and (now) me, which matches what GG5 has. Rather than re-editing an entry approved by three of the editors, this is an issue for the mailing list. The entry for 誰一人 is not the place to relitigate how an entire class of entries is written. |
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Diff: | @@ -20,0 +21,2 @@ +<gloss>no one</gloss> +<gloss>nobody</gloss> |
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15. | A* 2019-09-07 06:48:46 Alan | |
Comments: | Those last two senses were essentially duplicates, as well as going completely against the logic of the way the first two are written. |
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Diff: | @@ -21,2 +20,0 @@ -<gloss>no one</gloss> -<gloss>nobody</gloss> |
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14. | A 2019-09-07 00:42:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I'm happy with this version. If anyone is considering at further edits, please look first at the September 09 discussion train in a rejected fork (Advanced Search and enable "Rejected".) |
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13. | A* 2019-09-06 23:19:29 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think we need a separate sense, just a couple of glosses like this. Not an adverb according to the kokugos. |
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Diff: | @@ -18 +17,0 @@ -<pos>&n-adv;</pos> @@ -20 +19,3 @@ -<gloss>no-one</gloss> +<gloss>(not) anyone</gloss> +<gloss>(not) a single person</gloss> +<gloss>no one</gloss> @@ -23,5 +23,0 @@ -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<pos>&n-adv;</pos> -<gloss g_type="lit">anyone</gloss> -</sense> |
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