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A 2019-04-12 05:04:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2019-04-12 02:40:38 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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We don't normally use abbreviations like this outside of notes, I think. |
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-<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy orig. performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy originally performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss> |
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A 2018-02-26 21:40:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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spec2 has an interesting history. |
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A* 2018-02-26 11:47:27 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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see Rene's comments in edit #3 |
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[spec2] is also a (P) tag, so better to skip the tag
(could be downgraded to [ichi2] instead, but I think the tag is simply wrong) |
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@@ -6 +5,0 @@
-<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
@@ -14 +12,0 @@
-<re_pri>spec2</re_pri> |
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A 2018-02-26 06:13:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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(show/hide 8 older log entries)
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A* 2018-02-16 07:43:31 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Understanding Humor in Japan p. 52
Street Performers and Society in Urban Japan, 1600-1900:
The Beggar's Gift p 251
https://books.google.com/books?
id=ZRy8OyCnAfMC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=manzai+new+year+door
+to+door+entertainment&source=bl&ots=T3VakyM3hd&sig=jxF9
8CvZDFz_prVV6S_ragES1yI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_rqbF9KnZ
AhUBW2MKHSbrB2QQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=manzai%20new%20year
%20door%20to%20door%20entertainment&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?
id=UaBeCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=door-to-
door+manzai&source=bl&ots=ZPQqJjjOLQ&sig=adEmn0020TCdtyr
R1CSlsu0gWXk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjil-
uO9qnZAhUQxmMKHeMqDNoQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=door-to-
door%20manzai&f=false |
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This is quite interesting. |
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-<gloss>door-to-door comedic duo</gloss>
+<gloss>door-to-door manzai</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy orig. performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss> |
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A 2018-02-16 07:27:36 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/萬歳 |
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... realized it's not at all a word of recent coinage, and
that jawiki uses it. |
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A* 2018-02-16 06:43:34 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Scott didn't list a source for 萬歳. Even if 萬 is
kyujitai(?) for 万, is there any point in adding it to a
word of recent coinage if there's no actual evidence of it
being used? |
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A 2011-04-14 12:05:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2011-04-14 07:53:25 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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added to wrong one |
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-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>万才</keb> |
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A* 2011-04-14 07:51:25 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij, meikyo, gg5 |
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i think the gg5 form is best. koj seems to specify that there are indeed two of them, which makes sense given that it is supposed to be the forerunner of the other manzai:
太夫と才蔵とが連れ立ち、才蔵のいう駄洒落を太夫がたしなめるという形式で滑稽な掛合いを演ずる。...「漫才」はこれの現代化。
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also, i find [ichi1] a bit hard to believe. almost certainly due to confusion with ばんざい. some other usage tag perhaps, but not the coveted ichi1. |
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-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>万才</keb>
@@ -10,0 +13,1 @@
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -13,1 +17,1 @@
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
@@ -17,1 +21,2 @@
-<gloss>strolling comic dancer</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1604310">漫才</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1604310">漫才</xref> |
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A* 2011-04-12 01:58:17 Scott
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I'm also a bit confused. |
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>萬歳</keb> |
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A* 2011-04-11 23:11:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, Daijirin, Koj |
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A lot of confusion between 漫才 and 万歳. |
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+<gloss>door-to-door comedic duo</gloss> |