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悩ましげ	1016
悩ましさ	173
悩ましがる	No matches
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なやましさ	31
なやましがる	No matches

I think this entry benefited by being totally aligned with 悩ましい. Do we really have proof of it being used in all these different senses? I don't think 
we should just add meanings the word theoretically can have and I don't really see much support for edit in the SLJ discussion. I also think a -げ entry, 
if we should even have it in the first place, should not just be a duplicate of the adjective entry it was derived from, because the nuances are 
different (e.g. "seeming", "looking like", "with a XX look").
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I think this entry should preferably be 1) deleted or possibly 2) paired down to two senses (④ & ③):
[adj-na] yearning (look)
[adj-na]seemingly uneasy; anxious (look)
yearning is in GG5 and the two of them seem to dominate the search results.
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げ 【形動】entries are just the same as さ【名】- they're listed in daij under 【派生】 but aren't given their own entries. GG5 too only lists -さ/-げ as a 
"compound"/in example sentences. I think we too should think about coming up with a different way to include derivatives like なやましげ, なやましがる, and 
なやましさ. I don't know if it might be a drag to implement in the database, but I think it would be great if we could add this information to the なやまし
い entry instead of giving them separate entries, without any definitions specified, just like daij do. This is how it looks in daijs:
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[派生]なやましがる［動五］なやましげ［形動］なやましさ［名］
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I could see jmdict entries having this type of tagging, appearing at the bottom of entries:
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Derivatives: [v5r] なやましがる (see　がる), [adj-na] なやましげ (see 気・げ), [n] なやましさ (see さ)
Technical but I'm thinking you could do these as xrefs, possibly. [derivative_garu_v5r:なやしまがる][derivative_adj-na:"なやましさ"][derivative_ge:"なやまし
げ"]
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In certain cases it can still be good to have a げ entry, for example when the usage is significantly different from the original word. But again, if 
we're just cloning the original glosses - what's the point of the entry, really?

After some discussion on the SLJ forum, I will:
(a) line it up with 悩ましい
(b) add the extra sense
As was pointed out, it all comes from 悩む.

@@ -12,0 +12,19 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1469830">悩ましい・なやましい・1</xref>
+<gloss>seductive</gloss>
+<gloss>carnal</gloss>
+<gloss>enchanting</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1469830">悩ましい・なやましい・2</xref>
+<gloss>troubling</gloss>
+<gloss>difficult</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1469830">悩ましい・なやましい・3</xref>
+<gloss>anxious</gloss>
+<gloss>uneasy</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
@@ -16,6 +35,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
-<gloss>teasing</gloss>
-<gloss>titillating</gloss>
-<gloss>sexually provocative</gloss>
-</sense>

Well, "normally" the -げ form means the same as the regular adjective, but in this case it seems to have collected a few others.
I guess I could ask around the NSJs.

aren't the pictures just girls having a "yearning" look on 
their faces? first hit on google images comes with the text 
"悩ましげな表情で腰を少し曲げているところです"

JWN: teasing (満たすつもりはなく性欲を引き出す/arousing sexual desire without intending to satisfy it)

Lots of WWW hits show soft-porn and girls in provocative poses, etc. I think the meaning has expanded somewhat.

@@ -16,0 +16,6 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<gloss>teasing</gloss>
+<gloss>titillating</gloss>
+<gloss>sexually provocative</gloss>
+</sense>

GG5

I think the translation in the examples is a little off the mark. I have amended it.

Hi, the use in the example sentence seems to be the opposite of the definition ("desirable" versus "desiring").

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