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2220320
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<entry id="2296528" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2220320</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>箇</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>個</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>个</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>か</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>カ</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ケ</reb>
<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ヶ</reb>
<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&ctr;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>precedes the thing being counted; e.g. 3か月, 5か所; also written as ヶ or ケ</s_inf>
<gloss>counter used with Sino-Japanese words</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2007-10-06 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-08-11 17:04:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Jean-Luc Léger</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +18,1 @@
+<re_nokanji/></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-08-13 21:59:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-26 01:09:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Most of the kokugos says something like "漢語の数詞に付いて" but 4か... and 7か... are always read よん and なな. I think koj's definition is more accurate.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj: (漢語名詞の前に付いて)物を数える語。「3―月」</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,2 +22,3 @@
-<gloss>counter for the ichi-ni-san counting system (usu. directly preceding the item being counted)</gloss>
-<gloss>a noun read using its on-yomi</gloss>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>precedes the thing being counted; e.g. 3か月, 5か所; also written as ヶ or ケ</s_inf>
+<gloss>counter used with Sino-Japanese words</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-26 01:28:31" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-26 07:03:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>not sure け and ヶ should be hidden? Or is there a reason they weren't included?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>一箇月 18065 97.1%
一個月 346 1.9%
一个月 196 1.1%
一箇所 445475 98.1%
一個所 8584 1.9%
一个所 0 0.0%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18,0 +21,8 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ケ</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ヶ</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-26 16:19:05" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We've had a separate ケ/ヶ entry (2220325) since 2007. Perhaps it should be deleted now that ケ/ヶ can be added as sk forms.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-28 08:25:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think ケ and ヶ should be visible, and probably having them in their own entry is best.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-28 21:55:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>They would still be visible, just in a note instead of the readings field.
I think this is a better approach than having a separate ヶ/ケ entry because it makes it clear that ケ is not a reading.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-29 11:13:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>What about the other two senses of 2220325?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-29 14:27:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Like this entry, 1264740 (個/こ) and 2028930 (が) would also get "also written as ヶ" notes.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-30 01:52:49" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK, I've set that up. I've left 1264740 for checking.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>