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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>黒子</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ほくろ</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ホクロ</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>mole</gloss>
<gloss>lentigo</gloss>
<gloss>beauty mark</gloss>
<gloss>beauty spot</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-11-12 00:44:38" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>is 'mite' an aussie term for 'mole' that i'm unaware of?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj, daijr, daijs</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +15,12 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ははくそ</reb>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ははくろ</reb>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ほくそ</reb>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -18,1 +30,1 @@
-<gloss>face mole</gloss>
+<gloss>facial mole</gloss>
@@ -20,1 +32,0 @@
-<gloss>mite</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-11-12 00:46:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>also i think this is a good candidate for uk</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>wiki</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -29,0 +29,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-11-12 06:33:58" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Never heard of "mite" in that context.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-06 13:40:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>KM ngrams</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,0 +27,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ホクロ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-06 23:06:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-06 22:38:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Tyler Winn</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Looks like 黶 can also be used for ほくろ
Not sure ngrams is helpful here, as there are multiple separate words/readings
which use these kanji
Anyone know what the〈 in「〈靨」is signifying? I don't have the explanatory
text, just the definitions</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>新明解国語辞典 第五版
ほくろ [3][0]【黶】
皮膚の表面にある、黒い小さな点。
[表記]「〈靨」とも書く。「｛黒子｝」も古来の用字。
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%BB%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8D
ほくろ（黒子、黶、英語:mole）は、メラニン色素を含む細胞、即ちメラノサイトが、皮
膚の一部に周囲より高い密度で集まってできた母斑の一種。</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-06 22:50:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I can't find any reference using 黶 as a headword for ほくろ. As for the "<", you'd need to look at the front-matter for that dictionary to see what their symbols mean.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -34,2 +34,2 @@
-<gloss>dark mole</gloss>
-<gloss>facial mole</gloss>
+<gloss>mole</gloss>
+<gloss>lentigo</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-12-02 12:07:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>ほくろ 441521
黒子 120944
ほくろ除去 79932
黒子除去 143</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +6 @@
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-04 14:26:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Encountered 黒子 in the wild. Various entries are inconsistent with beauty mark vs. spot, the former seems more common, both seem fine to me in AmE.
I'm having a hard time finding any use of the [ok] readings outside of the kokugo entry itself. Google books turned up an interesting ref suggesting ははくろ, at least, is quite an old term indeed...
「ははくろ」が、長い間に「ほくろ」と形を変えたものでしょう. ははくそ, ははくろ, and ほくそ seem possibly useful today only as etymology.
Suggest splitting med/col senses the same way we did for 脇芽. I misspoke on another entry saying こくし was [ok] here. Still, it is quite a bit rarer than the ngrams suggest, and maybe only appears as a medical term. A couple of refs at least support this, and sankoku does not have こくし at all.
====
As a complete aside, I am wondering if Japan even has the "beauty mark" concept, which raises interesting glossing questions.
I found "モテるほくろ", which seems to be a bit of a neologism. And this interesting headline (suggesting the answer to my question is "no"):
フランスでは、ホクロは美しさを引き立てるための道具だ。
https://ovninavi.com/664_corps/</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.wikiwand.com/ja/%E3%81%BB%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8D
ほくろ（黒子、黶、英語:mole）は
...狭義の黒子（こくし、lentigo）と言い...
ほくろの特徴
https://kizu-clinic.com/services/ecphyma/mole
医学名：黒子（こくし）、
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_mark
A beauty mark or beauty spot is a euphemism for a type of dark facial mark...
ほくろ 441521 65.4%
ホクロ 194305 28.8%
黒子 120944
こくし 35621 5.3% <-- largely unrelated terms
ほくそ 3082 0.5% <-- mostly? unrelated terms (ほくそ笑む)
ははくそ 148 0.0%
ははくろ 134 0.0%
https://furigana.info/w/%E9%BB%92%E5%AD%90
ほくろ 92.7%
ぼくろ 5.6%
くろこ 1.7%
I encountered a "can you read this" quiz here. Japanese person couldn't read it offhand, but guessed with a little hint:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P8sz0ZY7eUU</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13,4 @@
+<reb>ホクロ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -17 +21 @@
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
@@ -21 +25 @@
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
@@ -25,5 +29 @@
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ホクロ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
@@ -31,0 +32,2 @@
+<stagr>ほくろ</stagr>
+<stagr>ホクロ</stagr>
@@ -34,0 +37,7 @@
+<gloss>beauty mark</gloss>
+<gloss>beauty spot</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<field>&med;</field>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -36 +44,0 @@
-<gloss>beauty spot</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-05 05:03:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think it's just one sense. According to at least one kokugo こくし covers the mole sense too, so restraictiona aren't needed.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -32,9 +31,0 @@
-<stagr>ほくろ</stagr>
-<stagr>ホクロ</stagr>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>mole</gloss>
-<gloss>beauty mark</gloss>
-<gloss>beauty spot</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
@@ -43,0 +35 @@
+<gloss>mole</gloss>
@@ -44,0 +37,2 @@
+<gloss>beauty mark</gloss>
+<gloss>beauty spot</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-06 00:59:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think [med] is appropriate for ほくろ. It's an everyday word. No tag in GG5.
We don't use sk for ok readings. Those readings should either be dropped or split out into [arch] entries. I don't think they're worth recording.
こくし probably isn't uk. I'll make a new entry for it.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,15 +15,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>こくし</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ははくそ</reb>
-<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ははくろ</reb>
-<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ほくそ</reb>
-<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
@@ -33 +17,0 @@
-<field>&med;</field></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-03-06 03:31:10" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>