<entry id="2292647" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1345120</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>女三人寄れば姦しい</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>女三人寄ればかしましい</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>女三人よれば姦しい</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>女三人よればかしましい</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>おんなさんにんよればかしましい</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
<misc>&proverb;</misc>
<s_inf>from three 女 kanji forming 姦</s_inf>
<gloss>three women make a market</gloss>
<gloss>many women, many words</gloss>
<gloss g_type="lit">three women gathering creates a racket</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-01-08 08:29:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Aligning with 女三人寄れば姦し (which I don't think is 
really needed as it's just a conj 終止形 of this one and 
not in the dictionaries)</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;wherever women gather it is noisy&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;proverb;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;three women make a market&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-12 10:00:24" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-21 22:51:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Opencooper</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Supposedly the full phrases in English are "three women and a goose ..." and "..., many geese many turds"... 
Nevertheless, not really known phrases in English anymore, so needs an explanation.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>* gg5/wisdom also have "many women many words"
* koj, imidas, 三省堂必携故事ことわざ・慣用句辞典, and 明鏡ことわざ成句使い方辞典 all note the visual referencing with 
the kanji

女三人寄れば姦しい	524
女三人寄ればかしましい	318 &lt;-- luminous/saito
女三人よればかしましい	35 &lt;-- gg5/chuujiten/wisdom</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,6 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;女三人寄ればかしましい&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;女三人よればかしましい&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -12,0 +19 @@
+&lt;s_inf&gt;derived from three 女 characters forming 姦&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -13,0 +21,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;many women many words&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;three women gathering creates a racket&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-09 03:17:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -19 +19 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;derived from three 女 characters forming 姦&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;from three 女 kanji forming 姦&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-01 04:02:20" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Add POS to proverbs
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-i;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-26 04:38:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think displaying one form is probably enough.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>〈女／おんな〉〈三人／さんにん／サンニン〉〈寄／よ〉れば〈姦／かしま〉しい

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーーーーー─┬─────┬───────╮
│ 女三人寄れば姦しい　　 │ 524 │ 56.6% │ - (daijr/s, koj, kanjipedia, jitenon, etc.)
│ 女三人寄ればかしましい │ 318 │ 34.3% │ - sK
│ 女三人よれば姦しい　　 │  49 │  5.3% │ - add, sK
│ 女三人よればかしましい │  35 │  3.8% │ - sK
╰─ーーーーーーーーーーー─┴─────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9,5 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;女三人よれば姦しい&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -11,0 +17 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -22 +28 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;many women many words&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;many women, many words&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-26 10:35:36" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>