<entry id="2291510" stat="R" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1326800</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>取り上げる</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf42</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>取りあげる</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>取上げる</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>とり上げる</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>とりあげる</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf42</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to pick up</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2860162">採り上げる</xref>
<gloss>to adopt (a proposal)</gloss>
<gloss>to take up (a topic)</gloss>
<gloss>to accept</gloss>
<gloss>to listen to</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to take issue with</gloss>
<gloss>to make a problem of</gloss>
<gloss>to bring up (as a point of criticism)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to report (news)</gloss>
<gloss>to cover</gloss>
<gloss>to feature</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to take away</gloss>
<gloss>to confiscate</gloss>
<gloss>to deprive (someone) of</gloss>
<gloss>to revoke</gloss>
<gloss>to disqualify</gloss>
<gloss>to cancel</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to deliver (a baby)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to collect (taxes)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-07-13 17:59:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>last sense is 'deliver', not 'adopt'. according to meikyo, only sense 2 should be written as 採り上げる</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>prog, gg5, nc</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -29,0 +29,1 @@
+<gloss>to pick up</gloss>
@@ -30,1 +31,0 @@
-<gloss>to pick up</gloss>
@@ -42,1 +42,1 @@
-<gloss>to disqualify</gloss>
+<gloss>to take away</gloss>
@@ -45,0 +45,1 @@
+<gloss>to disqualify</gloss>
@@ -49,1 +50,1 @@
-<gloss>to adopt (child)</gloss>
+<gloss>to deliver (a child)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-13 18:00:22" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -35,0 +35,1 @@
+<gloss>to adopt</gloss>
@@ -36,1 +37,0 @@
-<gloss>to adopt</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-14 07:26:20" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-28 11:18:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>richwarm</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Richard Warmington</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Genius WaEi has "to feature" and I find it to be a useful gloss sometimes.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -30,0 +31 @@
+<gloss>to feature</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-28 18:21:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>if anywhere, shouldn't it go in the 2nd sense with 'adopt'? the first sense is about literally picking things up</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -31 +30,0 @@
-<gloss>to feature</gloss>
@@ -36,0 +36 @@
+<gloss>to feature</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-12-12 20:21:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Added sense (not in the JEs). Added glosses.
Dropped "disqualify" because that's really a translation of the expression 資格を取り上げる.
As Rene pointed out in 2011, 採り上げる only applies to sense 2. Should we add [restr] tags to the other senses or is that a bit messy?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij, gg5, meikyo</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>採上げる</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>採りあげる</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -30 +35,0 @@
-<gloss>to take up</gloss>
@@ -35 +40,5 @@
-<gloss>to adopt</gloss>
+<gloss>to adopt (e.g. a proposal)</gloss>
+<gloss>to accept</gloss>
+<gloss>to take up (a topic, complaint, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to listen to</gloss>
+<gloss>to deal with</gloss>
@@ -37,2 +45,0 @@
-<gloss>to accept</gloss>
-<gloss>to listen to</gloss>
@@ -45,2 +52,2 @@
-<gloss>to deprive</gloss>
-<gloss>to disqualify</gloss>
+<gloss>to deprive (someone) of</gloss>
+<gloss>to revoke</gloss>
@@ -51 +58,6 @@
-<gloss>to deliver (a child)</gloss>
+<gloss>to deliver (a baby)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<gloss>to collect (taxes)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-12-13 11:45:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll approve and reopen, as the examples need sorting out.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-12-13 11:45:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Reopen.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-16 11:53:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Done.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-03-25 08:59:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>reordering
adding とり上げる</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>G n-grams
取り上げる 666597
取りあげる 15182
取上げる 12461
採り上げる 10271
とり上げる 3694
採りあげる 1470
採上げる 145
とりあげる 67910</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,3 @@
+<keb>取りあげる</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -13,3 +15,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>取りあげる</keb>
@@ -21 +21 @@
-<keb>採上げる</keb>
+<keb>とり上げる</keb>
@@ -24,0 +25,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>採上げる</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-05 15:04:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dom</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>wisdom</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -47,0 +48,3 @@
+<gloss>to treat</gloss>
+<gloss>to report (news)</gloss>
+<gloss>to cover</gloss>
@@ -56,0 +60,2 @@
+<gloss>to disqualify</gloss>
+<gloss>to cancel</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-05 22:28:15" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-07 16:54:04" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_detl>added form restrictions
split sense 2 into several senses
sentence indexed to sense 2 should be re-indexed to sense 4
sentence indexed to sense 3 should be re-indexed to sense 5</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>meikyo, smk, shinkoku, sankoku, obunsha
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 取り上げて │ 1,415,497 │ 86.0% │
│ 取上げて │ 33,553 │ 2.0% │
│ 取りあげて │ 26,658 │ 1.6% │
│ 採り上げて │ 20,266 │ 1.2% │
│ とり上げて │ 13,077 │ 0.8% │
│ 採りあげて │ 2,583 │ 0.2% │
│ 採上げて │ 259 │ 0.0% │
│ 取あげて │ 37 │ 0.0% │
│ 採あげて │ 0 │ 0.0% │
│ とりあげて │ 134,384 │ 8.2% │
╰─ーーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,4 @@
+<keb>採り上げる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +20 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18,3 +23,0 @@
-<keb>採り上げる</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -21,0 +25 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -24,0 +29 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -27,0 +33 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -35,0 +42 @@
+<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -42,0 +50 @@
+<s_inf>esp. 採り上げる</s_inf>
@@ -45 +52,0 @@
-<gloss>to take up (a topic, complaint, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -46,0 +54,7 @@
+<gloss>to take up (a complaint, etc.)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 取り上げる</s_inf>
+<gloss>to take up (a topic, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -48,0 +63,5 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -53,0 +73 @@
+<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -63,0 +84 @@
+<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -68,0 +90 @@
+<stagk>取り上げる</stagk></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-08 01:05:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Of all the references I checked (JES & Kokugos) only Meikyo mentioned 採り上げる. GG5 has sense 2 for 取り上げる so that "esp." looks rather doubtful. Also, the JEs have 4 senses which I think works well. I think the 7 senses is overdoing it.
I'd be OK with making 採り上げる [sK], goin back to 4 senses, and stripping out all the notes and restrictions.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-08 15:08:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_detl>this entry previously had 5 senses
採り上げる is definitely not [sK] as it's present in sankoku, meikyo, shinkoku, obunsha
sankoku does have a separate entry for 採り上げる, so maybe we could follow their lead and split it (and cross-reference it here)
i think that having "to adopt (e.g. a proposal)" and "to report (news)" in the same sense is confusing, they're pretty different things
it's true that the (current) 3 and 4 senses can be merged as they're basically the same thing which would result in 6 senses</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-09 02:46:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>I think 7 senses is fine, but I think senses 02 and 03 proposed by penname01 are overlapping a bit. I don't think the glosses for sense 03 ("to take up (a topic, etc.); to deal with; to treat") correctly capture the meaning of the corresponding sense in the kokugos.
Meikyo 3e:
③［取］特に取り立てて問題にする。「欠陥商品を━・げて糾弾する」「弱点を━・げて非難する」
Shinsen 10e:
⑥特別に問題とする。「━ほどのものでない」
Sankoku 8e:
④問題と〈する／してあつかう〉。「大きく━・━必要のない問題」
I am proposing that we gloss this sense with something like "to take issue with; to make a problem of; to bring up (as a point of criticism)"
Meikyo 2e has the 採 form for this sense, but the third edition dropped it. I think we can make 採り上げる a hidden form and add a note to sense 02, which is where most refs put it. I wouldn't object to splitting it into a separate entry either.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12 @@
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -42 +41,0 @@
-<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -50,2 +49,3 @@
-<s_inf>esp. 採り上げる</s_inf>
-<gloss>to adopt (e.g. a proposal)</gloss>
+<s_inf>sometimes written as 採り上げる</s_inf>
+<gloss>to adopt (a proposal)</gloss>
+<gloss>to take up (a topic)</gloss>
@@ -54 +53,0 @@
-<gloss>to take up (a complaint, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -59,4 +58,3 @@
-<s_inf>esp. 取り上げる</s_inf>
-<gloss>to take up (a topic, etc.)</gloss>
-<gloss>to deal with</gloss>
-<gloss>to treat</gloss>
+<gloss>to take issue with</gloss>
+<gloss>to make a problem of</gloss>
+<gloss>to bring up (as a point of criticism)</gloss>
@@ -65 +62,0 @@
-<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -73 +69,0 @@
-<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -84 +79,0 @@
-<stagk>取り上げる</stagk>
@@ -90 +84,0 @@
-<stagk>取り上げる</stagk></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-10 00:29:29" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think this is OK. I've reindexed the sentences to match.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-10 00:42:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_detl>i don't think it's a good idea to hide a kanji form that is in multiple references and in absolute numbers pretty common
imo it's better to split it off and cross-reference it</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,4 +8,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>採り上げる</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -25,8 +20,0 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>採りあげる</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>採上げる</keb>
@@ -49 +37 @@
-<s_inf>sometimes written as 採り上げる</s_inf>
+<xref type="see" seq="2860162">採り上げる</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-02-10 02:13:55" stat="R">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'm not entirely opposed to the idea, but I'm not really sure what's at stake. The form isn't completely hidden, just moved to a note.
We've used this style on quite a few entries recently. See 1164780 (一挺), 1167270 (一旒), 1299600 (杜鵑花), 1260670 (因・もと), 1588320 (撮す), etc.
Since this is a policy decision that affects many entries, it would be best to have this discussion on github or the mailing list.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>