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<audit time="2018-02-18 12:17:10" stat="A">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<audit time="2021-10-18 20:23:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Chris Vasselli</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I encountered this furigana for 永遠 and upon investigation, it seems like a legitimate reading of this kanji. According to the hinative question above, it sounds more poetic than えいえん.</upd_detl>
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<audit time="2021-10-19 00:05:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_refs>koj has とわ【常・永久】
I'm not sure whether it should be included 
here or not. feels like わけ rubi on 理由 (which 
I now looked up and realize we include as an 
ik in the 理由 entry)</upd_refs>
<audit time="2021-10-19 01:01:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>An interesting one. Unidic has 永遠/とわ as a variant form of 永久/とわ. GG5 and 中辞典 have 永久/えいきゅう and 永久/とわ entries, while we have a combined 永久/えいきゅう/とわ entry.  Also 永遠/とわ is being used as a female given name and is part of 永遠子, 永遠花, etc. See:
My inclination is to have it just in the 永久 entry.</upd_detl>
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<audit time="2021-10-22 19:53:02" stat="A">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I'll close this now.</upd_detl>
<audit time="2024-01-07 17:34:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>sankoku, smk, meikyo, jawiki all have とわ for both 永遠 and 永久
i just found it used this way for 永遠. i think there should be a separate とわ entry</upd_detl>
<audit time="2024-02-01 05:34:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>We currently have とわ as a reading in the 永久 entry, along with えいきゅう. Perhaps 永遠 can be added there as [sK]?. I don't think a distinct 永遠/とわ entry is needed.
Alternatively we could have a 永久/永遠/とわ entry, but even then 永遠 would probably be [rK] or [sK].</upd_detl>
<audit time="2024-02-01 06:29:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>i think a separate 永久/永遠/とわ makes more sense, should probably be [poet] or [form]
ruigo reikai:「とわ」は、文学的表現として使われることが多い。
shinkoku: 文章語</upd_detl>
<audit time="2024-02-03 01:19:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>The えいきゅう/とわ entry is an uncomfortable merge. I'm in favour of a separate 永久/永遠/とわ entry.</upd_detl>
<audit time="2024-02-03 06:31:21" stat="A">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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