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<r_ele>
<reb>ランドセル</reb>
<re_pri>gai1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<lsource xml:lang="dut">ransel</lsource>
<gloss>randoseru</gloss>
<gloss g_type="expl">firm-sided leather (or synthetic leather) backpack used by elementary school children</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-10-13 05:36:01" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nils Roland Barth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Clarify that this is a *specific kind* of *elementary school* backpack, not a backpack generally – this is a very specific term for a design that is unfamiliar to most English-speakers (resulting gloss is a bit long).
Also, correct language source to Dutch, as specified on ja & en WP, with many references there.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>WP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randoseru
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,5 +10,3 @@
-<s_inf>possibly also nl: ransel</s_inf>
-<lsource xml:lang="ger">Raenzel</lsource>
-<gloss>bag</gloss>
-<gloss>knapsack</gloss>
-<gloss>satchel with back straps</gloss>
+<lsource xml:lang="dut">ransel</lsource>
+<gloss>type of school bag (a backpack, knapsack, rucksack, satchel with back straps) used by elementary school students, traditionally leather (often synthetic leather), black for boys, red for girls, with a large flap</gloss>
+<gloss>elementary school bag</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-10-13 05:47:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>simplifying</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,2 +11,1 @@
-<gloss>type of school bag (a backpack, knapsack, rucksack, satchel with back straps) used by elementary school students, traditionally leather (often synthetic leather), black for boys, red for girls, with a large flap</gloss>
-<gloss>elementary school bag</gloss>
+<gloss>firm-sided backpack made of leather, etc. (used by Japanese elementary schoolchildren, often red for girls and black for boys)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-27 09:17:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I guess "etc." was added to represent things like synthetic leather, but I think it's more confusing than helpful.
I think we usually separate multiple notes in parentheses with semicolons.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +11 @@
-<gloss>firm-sided backpack made of leather, etc. (used by Japanese elementary schoolchildren, often red for girls and black for boys)</gloss>
+<gloss>firm-sided backpack made of leather (used by Japanese elementary schoolchildren; often red for girls and black for boys)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-27 10:26:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I feel it is a bit too detailed. Feel free to reject my suggested version.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5: a school backpack.
中辞典: a (school) satchel (strapped on one's back).
ルミナス: school satchel</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +11 @@
-<gloss>firm-sided backpack made of leather (used by Japanese elementary schoolchildren; often red for girls and black for boys)</gloss>
+<gloss>firm-sided school backpack (often red for girls and black for boys)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-27 12:40:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>All the kokugos mention "小学生". I don't think the detail about the colours is needed.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randoseru
daijr: 小学生が学用品を入れて背中に背負うかばん。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +11,2 @@
-<gloss>firm-sided school backpack (often red for girls and black for boys)</gloss>
+<gloss>randoseru</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">firm-sided leather (or synthetic leather) backpack used by elementary school children</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-27 20:50:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
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