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<r_ele>
<reb>ナメる</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1571320">舐める・なめる・4</xref>
<gloss>to underestimate</gloss>
<gloss>to make light of</gloss>
<gloss>to look down on (someone)</gloss>
<gloss>to make a fool of</gloss>
<gloss>to treat with contempt</gloss>
<gloss>to disparage</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2020-11-28 02:12:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Split from 1571320.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-22 20:12:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Encountered as [2]: ナメていると死ぬよ。 (The winters here are bitter...) Underestimate them and you'll die.
Subtitled with katakana ナメ, consistent with the discussion that forked this entry off of 舐める.
Having "to underestimate" under [1] at the end of a long list has a couple of shortcomings:
1. This particular list really looks like it is trying to apply to people
2. At the end of the list, "underestimate" looks like a context-dependent niche possibility, rather than a primary sense.
No one is talking about "looking down on", "making fun of", "putting down" or "mistreating" a mountain, I don't think.(refs)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Some guesses I made and their ngrams:
冬をナメ 97
海をナメ 199
山をナメ 1069</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,0 +15,4 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-24 00:48:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think a simple reordering of the glosses is sufficient. None of the refs split.
I think we can delete this entry and add ナメる back to 1571320 as an sk form (with an "also written as ナメる" note on sense 4).</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5, prog, luminous</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,2 @@
+<gloss>to underestimate</gloss>
+<gloss>to make light of</gloss>
@@ -12,2 +14 @@
-<gloss>to make fun of</gloss>
-<gloss>to put down</gloss>
+<gloss>to make a fool of</gloss>
@@ -15,5 +16 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&v1;</pos>
-<pos>&vt;</pos>
-<gloss>to underestimate</gloss>
+<gloss>to disparage</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-25 01:43:08" stat="D">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK. I've added it back there.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>