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jmdict 2847552 Deleted (id: 2289928)
<entry id="2289928" stat="D" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2847552</ent_seq>
<r_ele>
<reb>ナメる</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1571320">舐める・なめる・4</xref>
<gloss>to underestimate</gloss>
<gloss>to make light of</gloss>
<gloss>to look down on (someone)</gloss>
<gloss>to make a fool of</gloss>
<gloss>to treat with contempt</gloss>
<gloss>to disparage</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2020-11-28 02:12:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Split from 1571320.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-22 20:12:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Encountered as [2]: ナメていると死ぬよ。 (The winters here are bitter...) Underestimate them and you'll die.

Subtitled with katakana ナメ, consistent with the discussion that forked this entry off of 舐める.

Having "to underestimate" under [1] at the end of a long list has a couple of shortcomings:
1. This particular list really looks like it is trying to apply to people
2. At the end of the list, "underestimate"  looks like a context-dependent niche possibility, rather than a primary sense.

No one is talking about "looking down on", "making fun of", "putting down" or "mistreating" a mountain, I don't think.(refs)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Some guesses I made and their ngrams:
冬をナメ	97	  
海をナメ	199
山をナメ	1069</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,0 +15,4 @@
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v1;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-24 00:48:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think a simple reordering of the glosses is sufficient. None of the refs split.
I think we can delete this entry and add ナメる back to 1571320 as an sk form (with an "also written as ナメる" note on sense 4).</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5, prog, luminous</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;to underestimate&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to make light of&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -12,2 +14 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to make fun of&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to put down&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to make a fool of&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -15,5 +16 @@
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v1;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to underestimate&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to disparage&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-25 01:43:08" stat="D">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK. I've added it back there.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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