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jmdict 2859703 Rejected (id: 2287433)
<entry id="2287433" stat="R" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2859703</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>状況下</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>じょうきょうか</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<s_inf>after an adjectival clause</s_inf>
<gloss>under the ... circumstances</gloss>
<gloss>in this ... situation</gloss>
<gloss>in this ... context</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2024-01-01 19:45:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬─────────╮
│ 状況下 │ 617,930 │
╰─ーーー─┴─────────╯</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 20:09:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Reverso</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,2 +12,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;under (the) circumstances&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;under (the) situation&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(under the) circumstances&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(in this) situation&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(in this) context&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 21:14:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think this should be an entry. It's not on its own. I'd break down 困難な状況下 as 困難な状況 + 下, not 困難な + 状況下.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 22:55:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_detl>i disagree</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%8A%B6%E6%B3%81%E4%B8%8B
https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E7%8A%B6%E6%B3%81%E4%B8%8B</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-05 00:45:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>"not used on its own" is what I meant to say.
I'm not sure what those links are supposed to show. The Wiktionary example is "非常に寒い状況下で車を洗車することになった". The Weblio thesaurus simply lists 状況下 alongside other synonyms (状況下で, 状況の下, 状況に置かれて, 状況において). None of those expressions would be suitable as entries.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-05 01:12:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_detl>my point was you'd break down "困難な状況下" -&gt; "困難な" + "状況下", not "困難な状況" + "下"
wiktionary also includes it as an entry and so does weblio thesaurus
i'm obviously not saying all weblio thesaurus entries should be included in jmdict, i shared the link to show how it's clear that "状況下" is its own thing, not just "(specific content)状況" + "下"</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-05 02:48:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This seems to be more of a grammar point than a stand-alone expression. I think we'd need to gloss it like this. I agree with Robin that this makes for an awkward entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>"状況下" always follows an adjectival clause (〜の, 〜な, 〜的, verb, noun acting prenominally, etc.)</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,3 +12,4 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;(under the) circumstances&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;(in this) situation&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;(in this) context&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;after an adjectival clause&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;under the ... circumstances&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;in this ... situation&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;in this ... context&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-05 02:49:02" stat="R">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Fork.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>

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