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<entry id="2287358" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1848250</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>言付かる</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>託かる</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>託る</keb>
<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ことづかる</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v5r;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to be asked to give someone (a message, parcel, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>to be asked to tell someone (that)</gloss>
<gloss>to be entrusted with</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-01-31 07:24:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>pupchurch</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Paul Upchurch</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daij</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;託かる&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-01-31 07:47:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 15:55:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_refs>obunsha, shinkoku

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ 言付かって │ 1,003 │ 47.4% │
│ 託かって  │    41 │  1.9% │
│ 託って   │ 1,071 │ 50.6% │ probably a lot of false positive, but i did encounter it used this way
╰─ーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +8,4 @@
+&lt;keb&gt;託る&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
@@ -8,0 +13 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 16:02:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_detl>probably not as many false positives as i'd have imagined</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬────┬───────╮
│ 言付かる │ 65 │ 73.0% │
│ 託る   │ 24 │ 27.0% │
│ 託かる  │  0 │  0.0% │
╰─ーーーー─┴────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +8,0 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 16:02:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>penname01</upd_name>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 18:03:17" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Oddly, 託かる is the only form in GG5.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5, prog, luminous</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;to be asked to give someone (a message, parcel, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to be asked to tell someone (that)&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -21 +22,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to be asked to&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 18:40:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>When the n-gram counts are this low, I think it's better to defer to the dictionaries for form priority.
The -か- okurigana in 託かる is preferred by the vast majority of the refs (daijr/s, koj, sankoku, iwakoku, meikyo, kanjipedia, gg5, prog).
I only see "託る" in smk, shinsen, and jitenon's kokugo. We usually tag forms like this as [io].

〈と/を/に〉〈託(か)/〈言/こと〉〈付/づ〉か〉っ

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬─────┬───────╮
│ と言付かっ  │ 265 │ 71.2% │
│ と託っ    │  46 │ 12.4% │
│ と託かっ   │   0 │  0.0% │
│ とことづかっ │  61 │ 16.4% │
├─ーーーーーー─┼─────┼───────┤
│ を言付かっ  │ 388 │ 23.1% │
│ を託っ    │ 964 │ 57.4% │
│ を託かっ   │   0 │  0.0% │
│ をことづかっ │ 327 │ 19.5% │
├─ーーーーーー─┼─────┼───────┤
│ に言付かっ  │ 164 │ 59.4% │
│ に託っ    │  57 │ 20.7% │
│ に託かっ   │   0 │  0.0% │
│ にことづかっ │  55 │ 19.9% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴─────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8 +8 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;託る&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;託かる&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -11,2 +11,2 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;託かる&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;託る&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;io;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-01-04 19:06:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Oops, for some reason I thought that 託る was the form in the kokugos and only GG5 had 託かる.
Yes, 託かる should be visible. [io] for 託る is fine.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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