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<entry id="2284184" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2115280</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>熊公八公</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>くまこうはちこう</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2114640">熊さん八っつあん</xref>
<gloss>uncultured but well-intentioned person</gloss>
<gloss>your average nice guy</gloss>
<gloss>Joe Blow</gloss>
<gloss>Joe Bloggs</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2006-12-04 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-08-25 01:32:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Adding yoji tagAdding yoji tag
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Kanji Haitani list</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;yoji;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-01 02:18:12" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Remove unsupported yoji tag
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +12,0 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;yoji;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-09 06:06:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijs
くまこう‐はちこう【熊公八公】 の解説
《落語などに出てくる庶民を代表する二人の名から》無教養ではあるが善意の庶民をいう称。熊さん八つぁん。

I don't think "average Joe" is an appropriate translation here.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="2114640"&gt;熊さん八っつあん&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-09 07:06:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>"average Joe" works OK for me. It's quite idiomatic English for this meaning. OTOH switching to GG5's version is not a problem.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5: 	the average person; your average nice guy; 《米》Joe Blow [《英》Joe Bloggs].</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;the average Joe&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2114640"&gt;熊さん八っつあん&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;the average person&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-10 01:12:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>It's a pretty rare expression and the definition 無教養ではあるが善意の庶民をいう称。 seems more precise than "average person" /Joe Blow/Bloggs to me.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-16 09:36:38" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>One more try</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;the average person&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;uncultured but well-intentioned person&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-23 22:46:36" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Quiet. Closing.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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