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<k_ele>
<keb>王道</keb>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf25</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>おうどう</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf25</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>righteous government</gloss>
<gloss>just rule</gloss>
<gloss>kingship</gloss>
<gloss>rule of right</gloss>
<gloss>noble path</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2250980">学問に王道なし</xref>
<gloss>easy method</gloss>
<gloss>simple approach</gloss>
<gloss>short-cut</gloss>
<gloss>royal road</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<gloss>orthodox way</gloss>
<gloss>proper way</gloss>
<gloss>traditional manner</gloss>
<gloss>classic approach</gloss>
<gloss>tried-and-true method</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-10-31 05:18:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Translations were a bit literal.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daijr, GG5, 新和英中辞典, etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,1 +16,3 @@
-<gloss>principles of royalty</gloss>
+<gloss>righteous government</gloss>
+<gloss>just rule</gloss>
+<gloss>kingship</gloss>
@@ -18,0 +20,1 @@
+<gloss>noble path</gloss>
@@ -22,1 +25,2 @@
-<gloss>royal road (i.e. easy method)</gloss>
+<gloss>easy method</gloss>
+<gloss>simple approach</gloss>
@@ -24,0 +28,1 @@
+<gloss>royal road</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-11-02 06:14:44" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-11 19:30:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>「特にこの『タコさんウインナ』などは、まさに手作り弁当の王道中の王道」</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>大辞泉</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -29,0 +30,7 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>tried-and-true method</gloss>
+<gloss>orthodox method</gloss>
+<gloss>classic path</gloss>
+<gloss>traditional path</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-12 05:24:52" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>In very few references.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -31,0 +32 @@
+<misc>&obsc;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-12 22:29:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Definitely not obscure. It's a newer meaning (often considered a 誤用) but it's probably the most common sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://biz.trans-suite.jp/19758#i-4
"現在は「正攻法」や「定番」の意味で使われることも多い"
daijs (sense 3): 物事が進むべき正当な道。「ミステリーの王道を歩む作品」
meikyo (sense 3): 最も正統的な道。「古典研究の━を行く」</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -32 +32,4 @@
-<misc>&obsc;</misc>
+<gloss>orthodox way</gloss>
+<gloss>proper way</gloss>
+<gloss>traditional manner</gloss>
+<gloss>classic approach</gloss>
@@ -34,3 +36,0 @@
-<gloss>orthodox method</gloss>
-<gloss>classic path</gloss>
-<gloss>traditional path</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-13 02:07:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I note that we have two example sentences for 王道. Both are currently linked to sense 2, but AFAICT are probably better suited to sense 3. I'm wondering if we should move it to the top?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-14 19:53:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, those sentences are sense 3. Given that it's a newer meaning, I'm not sure about moving it to the top.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-14 22:03:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Ok. I've just reindexed the sentences.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-12 18:59:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Apparently this is a calque from English(at least for sense [2]). Never heard of it, but "royal road" is the most common reverso gloss.
sankoku does not identify as adj-na, but usage suggests otherwise. There is a 的 form, which I have created separately. Yourei has 940 examples, 60 of which are 的. の seems more common as an adj. than な, but な does appear. As an adjective this *seems* to be at least primarily (perhaps entirely) sense [3].
https://yourei.jp/%E7%8E%8B%E9%81%93
We don't commonly xref the 的 forms from the main forms, but at least this offers some [adj] glosses. This is far less "stodgy" of a usage than I expected.
Is 王道のやり方 an easy method, or a traditional method? From what I've seen so far, it seems to be the latter.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Preference towards の な or 的な a timeless mystery:
王道的な物語 1031 47.6%
王道の物語 211 9.7%
王道な物語 153 7.1%
王道的なやり方 62 2.9%
王道のやり方 165 7.6%
王道なやり方 42 1.9%
王道的なラブストーリー 25 1.2%
王道のラブストーリー 418 19.3%
王道なラブストーリー 58 2.7%
reverso:
大福のあんこは、王道のつぶあんとおいも餡の2種から選択可能。
You have a choice of 2 anko pastes to fill your daifuku with: the classic red b ean 'tsubuan' and the sweet potato 'imoan'.
王道の演出で
In classic storytelling style,
王道なRPGをスマートフォンで実現
Players can enjoy on smartphones a typical RPG</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -31,0 +32,3 @@
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2859234">王道的</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-12 20:38:48" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think that xref helps.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -34 +33,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2859234">王道的</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-14 01:16:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think 〜な usage is rather colloquial. It's not in the dictionaries and it's less common than 〜の. We don't usually add adj-na in such cases.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -33 +32,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>