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<k_ele>
<keb>唐揚げ</keb>
<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf34</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>から揚げ</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>唐揚</keb>
<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>空揚げ</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>空揚</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>カラ揚げ</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>からあげ</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf34</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<field>&food;</field>
<gloss>deep-frying food lightly coated in flour or potato starch</gloss>
<gloss>deep-fried food (esp. chicken)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-11-20 04:34:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>richwarm</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Richard Warmington</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>How do you indicate that からあげ is the 3rd most frequent form
and カラアゲ the 5th?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google n-gram counts
空揚げ 21679
空揚 1678
唐揚 143321
唐揚げ 939116
からあげ 308802
から揚げ 681119
カラアゲ 28644
カラ揚げ 3885</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>空揚げ</keb>
+<keb>唐揚げ</keb>
@@ -10,1 +10,1 @@
-<keb>空揚</keb>
+<keb>から揚げ</keb>
@@ -16,1 +16,7 @@
-<keb>唐揚げ</keb>
+<keb>空揚げ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>カラ揚げ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>空揚</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-11-20 23:35:50" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>No clear way to do it. Interesting that 空揚げ trails, because all my refs have it first.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,0 +26,5 @@
+<re_restr>唐揚げ</re_restr>
+<re_restr>から揚げ</re_restr>
+<re_restr>唐揚</re_restr>
+<re_restr>空揚げ</re_restr>
+<re_restr>空揚</re_restr>
@@ -28,0 +33,8 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>カラあげ</reb>
+<re_restr>カラ揚げ</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>カラアゲ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-11-25 02:58:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>richwarm</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Richard Warmington</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Google Verbatim search results:
"唐揚げ" - About 19,900,000 results
"空揚げ" - About 2,810,000 results ... and they ask: Did you mean: "唐揚げ"
.
According to this article
http://www.nhk.or.jp/bunken/summary/kotoba/term/134.html
空揚げ is "correct" because この食べものが中国の「唐の国」とは直接の関係がない.
However, 現代の実態としては一般に「唐揚げ」と書かれることがたいへん多く.
So it depends whether you want to be prescriptive or descriptive.
The article has a chart which shows that, among older people, both forms are used quite a lot, but with younger generations, 唐揚げ usage is greater by a factor of about 5:1. So 唐揚げ may come to be regarded as "correct" in the future.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-11-25 03:00:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>richwarm</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Richard Warmington</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I guess that, by relying of Google n-grams, you are, in effect, choosing to be descriptive rather than prescriptive.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-12-01 19:01:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, although within limits. If an "incorrect" kanji is actually more common, I don't think it should go first.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-05-27 08:57:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_refs>daijs, google images, etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -45 +45 @@
-<gloss>fried (e.g. potatoes, chicken)</gloss>
+<gloss>fried food (most oft. chicken)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-05-27 08:57:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_diff>@@ -44,0 +45 @@
+<field>&food;</field></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-05-27 11:27:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-09-16 13:14:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Google image search for 唐揚げ.
See also 揚げる[5].</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -46 +46 @@
-<gloss>fried food (most oft. chicken)</gloss>
+<gloss>deep-fried food</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-09-17 01:42:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-21 00:28:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Didn't get the rationale for removing the mention of the
chicken. When I try google images, it all looks very much
like fried chicken to me, no potatoes or anything else.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://cookpad.com/search/%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89%E3%81%82%E
3%81%92
out of the first 11 recipes listed for the searchword か
らあげ, 10 are deep-fried chicken recipes. Out of these,
only one specifies "鶏のから揚げ". The only non-chicken
recipe specifies it's "タコの道具（内臓）の唐揚げ"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -46 +46 @@
-<gloss>deep-fried food</gloss>
+<gloss>deep-fried food (esp. chicken)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-21 22:04:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-10 07:59:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>meikyo and daijs say coated in flour or starch,
daijr says 何もつけないで，または小麦粉やかたくり粉を軽くまぶして油で揚げること
we could mention it but it might be messy. but KFC chicken wouldn't be called 唐揚げ</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>唐揚げ 939116 44.1%
から揚げ 681119 32.0%
唐揚 143321 6.7% daijs says 「唐揚げ」の字も当てることがある。
空揚げ 21679 1.0% rK
カラ揚げ 3885 0.2% sK
空揚 1678 0.1% rK
からあげ 308802 14.5%
カラあげ 264 0.0% remove
カラアゲ 28644 1.3% remove</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -13,0 +15 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -16,0 +19,5 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>空揚</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -20,3 +27 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>空揚</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26,5 +30,0 @@
-<re_restr>唐揚げ</re_restr>
-<re_restr>から揚げ</re_restr>
-<re_restr>唐揚</re_restr>
-<re_restr>空揚げ</re_restr>
-<re_restr>空揚</re_restr>
@@ -33,8 +32,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>カラあげ</reb>
-<re_restr>カラ揚げ</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>カラアゲ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -44,0 +37 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-11 07:50:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-12 22:47:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think we should mention it.
Refers to the technique as well as the food.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -38,0 +39 @@
+<gloss>deep-frying food lighted coated in flour or potato starch</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-12 23:03:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>lighted -> lightly</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -39 +39 @@
-<gloss>deep-frying food lighted coated in flour or potato starch</gloss>
+<gloss>deep-frying food lightly coated in flour or potato starch</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-12 23:52:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>