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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>鼻ちょうちん</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>鼻提灯</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>洟提灯</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>洟ちょうちん</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>はなちょうちん</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>はなぢょうちん</reb>
<re_restr>鼻提灯</re_restr>
<re_restr>洟提灯</re_restr>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>snot bubble</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-05-19 13:01:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>pupchurch</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Paul Upchurch</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Ordered by hits.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%8F%90%E7%81%AF
「鼻提灯 鼻から垂れた鼻水に鼻息が混じり、膨らんだ様を提灯に見立てた表現。」
380k Google hits for "鼻ちょうちん"</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-19 18:36:16" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>nasty</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-07 10:52:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daij
ngrams
鼻ちょうちん 223
鼻提灯 52
洟提灯 No matches</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>洟提灯</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +15,5 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>はなぢょうちん</reb>
+<re_restr>鼻提灯</re_restr>
+<re_restr>洟提灯</re_restr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-07 13:12:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>鼻ちょうちん and 鼻提灯 should arguably be iK but I don't
know if that's being overly pedantic or not.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-08 06:17:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>More ateji than iK.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-10 15:51:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Should this be [col]? Daijs marks the appearance of this sense on 提灯 itself as 俗.
While you can't always determine everything from web searches, I think the ngrams on はなちょうちん(7772) vs はなぢょうちん(0) are fairly definitive, regardless of daijs' oddball 洟提灯 entry. (twitter usage mirrors this)
I cannot help but think we'd be better off with [sk] on はなぢょうちん, at least until the day someone shows up with real-world experience to the contrary.
I picked [ok] for lack of a better option. If we take daijs' word that it used to exist, well, it seems obsolete now...</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>here is our only problem:
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E6%B4%9F%E6%8F%90%E7%81%AF-684558
洟提灯 はな‐ぢょうちん〔‐ヂヤウチン〕【×洟▽提▽灯】
but if you ask daijs, 鼻提灯 doesn't even exist, so...
鼻ちょうちん 9605 49.3%
はなちょうちん 7772 39.9%
鼻提灯 2073 10.6%
洟ちょうちん 27 0.1%
洟提灯 0 0.0%
ぢょ variants:
鼻ぢょうちん 0 0.0%
洟ぢょうちん 0 0.0%
はなぢょうちん 0 0.0%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,4 @@
+<keb>洟ちょうちん</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -19,0 +25 @@
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-11 01:30:31" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, odd about 洟提灯.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,4 @@
+<keb>洟提灯</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -13,4 +16,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>洟提灯</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -25 +24,0 @@
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>