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<entry id="2282224" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1514120</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>捕らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>取らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>とらぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>捕らぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>取らぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>獲らぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>とらぬたぬきのかわざんよう</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<misc>&id;</misc>
<gloss>counting one's chickens before they're hatched</gloss>
<gloss g_type="lit">counting raccoon dog skins before they have been caught</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-06-26 12:28:55" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,1 +19,1 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;(lit: don't assume you can grab a tanuki)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;don't assume you can grab a raccoon dog&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-30 07:32:44" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-30 11:28:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>better lit</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,1 +19,1 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;don't assume you can grab a raccoon dog&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;counting raccoon dog skins before they have been caught&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-30 23:47:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-12-05 07:52:53" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;proverb;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-07-26 16:45:22" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think we should be using an imperative gloss here.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
捕らぬ狸の皮算用	12145
獲らぬ狸の皮算用	2681
取らぬ狸の皮算用	10362</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8 +8 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;獲らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;取らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -11 +11 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;取らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;獲らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -19 +19 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;don't count your chickens before they're hatched&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;counting one's chickens before they've hatched&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-07-26 17:43:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Should probably be an id rather than a proverb, then.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +18 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;proverb;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-07-26 23:41:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-08-29 04:46:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A few more forms.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>取らぬタヌキの皮算用	874
獲らぬタヌキの皮算用	297
捕らぬタヌキの皮算用	937
とらぬ狸の皮算用	3471
とらぬタヌキの皮算用	980</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,3 @@
+&lt;keb&gt;とらぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
@@ -11,0 +15,12 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;捕らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;取らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;獲らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -14,0 +30,11 @@
+&lt;re_restr&gt;捕らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;取らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;とらぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;獲らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;とらぬタヌキのかわざんよう&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;捕らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;取らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;獲らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-08-29 16:43:24" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>When the n-gram counts are so close I think it's OK to adjust the ordering slightly.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,3 +10,0 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;とらぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
@@ -17 +14 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;とらぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -27,0 +25,3 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -31,0 +32 @@
+&lt;re_restr&gt;獲らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
@@ -33 +33,0 @@
-&lt;re_restr&gt;獲らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
@@ -37 +36,0 @@
-&lt;re_restr&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
@@ -40,0 +40 @@
+&lt;re_restr&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-03 04:46:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>〈捕/取/獲/と〉らぬ〈狸/タヌキ/たぬき〉の〈皮算用/かわざんよう〉

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 捕らぬ狸の皮算用      │ 12,145 │ 36.8% │
│ 取らぬ狸の皮算用      │ 10,362 │ 31.4% │
│ 獲らぬ狸の皮算用      │  2,681 │  8.1% │
│ とらぬ狸の皮算用      │  3,471 │ 10.5% │ - sK
│ 捕らぬタヌキの皮算用    │    937 │  2.8% │ - sK
│ 取らぬタヌキの皮算用    │    874 │  2.7% │ - sK
│ 獲らぬタヌキの皮算用    │    297 │  0.9% │ - sK
│ とらぬタヌキの皮算用    │    980 │  3.0% │ - sK
│ とらぬたぬきの皮算用    │    511 │  1.6% │
│ 捕らぬたぬきの皮算用    │    378 │  1.1% │
│ 取らぬたぬきの皮算用    │    277 │  0.8% │
│ 獲らぬたぬきの皮算用    │     51 │  0.2% │
│ とらぬたぬきのかわざんよう │      0 │  0.0% │
│ とらぬタヌキのかわざんよう │      0 │  0.0% │ - drop
╰─ーーーーーーーーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -17,0 +19 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -20,0 +23 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -23,0 +27 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -26,0 +31 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -30,11 +34,0 @@
-&lt;re_restr&gt;捕らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;取らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;獲らぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;とらぬ狸の皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;とらぬタヌキのかわざんよう&lt;/reb&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;捕らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;取らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;獲らぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;re_restr&gt;とらぬタヌキの皮算用&lt;/re_restr&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-03 11:55:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-11-05 20:37:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This form is more common.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -39 +39 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;counting one's chickens before they've hatched&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;counting one's chickens before they're hatched&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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