<entry id="2279342" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2417440</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>この親にしてこの子あり</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>此の親にして此の子あり</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>此の親にして此の子有り</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>此の親にしてこの子あり</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>このおやにしてこのこあり</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<misc>&proverb;</misc>
<gloss>the apple doesn't fall far from the tree</gloss>
<gloss>like father, like son</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2008-11-21 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-13 13:36:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>not restricted to dads/sons

daijs lists 2 senses, the first one is positive, the 2nd is 
negative but"（俗に1を誤用して）".

the English expression can be used in both ways so I think 
it's suitable?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,0 +4,6 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;この親にしてこの子あり&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;此の親にして此の子あり&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -13,1 +19,1 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;Like father, like son&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;the apple doesn't fall far from the tree&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-13 23:19:44" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>And it's not restricted to apples either.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daijr (yet another variant.) GG5 (親 entry: like father, like son)</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,0 +13,3 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;此の親にしてこの子あり&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -20,0 +23,1 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;like father, like son&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-12-03 04:17:50" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -21 +21 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;proverb;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-06 08:03:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -14,0 +17 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-04 14:30:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>[rK] -&gt; [sK]</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +9 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-04 22:24:17" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>