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jmdict 1301410 Active (id: 2278855)
<entry id="2278855" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1301410</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>三拝九拝</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>さんぱいきゅうはい</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<misc>&yoji;</misc>
<gloss>kowtowing</gloss>
<gloss>bowing repeatedly</gloss>
<gloss>three kneelings and nine prostrations</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&yoji;</misc>
<s_inf>written at the end of a letter</s_inf>
<gloss>my deepest respects</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2014-08-25 01:44:03" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Adding yoji tagAdding yoji tag
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Kanji Haitani list</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;yoji;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-02 22:46:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not "int".</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5, etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +10,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;int;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -12,0 +12 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vs;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-09 00:21:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Quiet. Closing.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-17 05:35:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Dropping [lit] as discussed in  1324880.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-17 07:38:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think [lit] was appropriate here? I don't think the gloss makes sense without it.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-17 23:55:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Jitenon's entry says 「三拝」 refers to the Buddhist concept of 「三業」 (respectful actions, words, and thoughts) and 「九拝」 refers to nine ancient Chinese forms of paying respect.
  「三拝」は敬意を持って三回拝むこと。仏教では身業、口業、意業の三業に敬意を表すこと。
  「九拝」は敬意を持って九回拝むこと。または、古代中国で定められた九種類の礼拝のこと。

The medium sized dictionaries (daijr/s, koj) just say 「三拝と九拝の礼。」

I don't think we can say with confidence that 三拝九拝 literally refers to three kneelings and nine prostrations.
I think gg5 might have been taking some creative liberties, so we probably shouldn't reproduce it verbatim.

Adding a second sense from the kokugos.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vi;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -16 +17,5 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;yoji;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;words of deep respect written at the end of a letter&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-18 21:20:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>A web search shows this is actually a common phrase for describing the act of kowtowing, so I think I was wrong about gg5 taking creative liberties.
I'll add it back</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-18 21:49:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll approve that with a lit tag, and reopen for a short time.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-18 21:50:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-19 04:10:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>It seems the "kneelings and prostrations" come from 三跪九叩.

If I'm not mistaken, 三拝九拝 is literally "three bows and nine bows." Jitenon also offers the other interpretations that I described in a previous edit.

In any case, it doesn't look like [lit] is a good fit for this particular gloss on this entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://yoji.jitenon.jp/yojig/3140.html
  三跪九叩(さんききゅうこう)
  中国の清の敬礼の方法。三回跪(ひざまず)いて、頭を九回地面に打ち付ける礼のことをいう。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;three kneelings and nine prostrations&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-19 11:37:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I agree that the "nine prostrations" stretching it as a literal translation.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>三拝九拝	944
三跪九叩	279</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-21 20:06:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>For sense 2, it needs to be made clear that 三拝九拝 are the words themselves rather than a name for them.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -22 +22,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;words of deep respect written at the end of a letter&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;written at the end of a letter&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;my deepest respects&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-01 22:28:26" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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