<entry id="2277806" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2097940</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>でも無い</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>でもない</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>is not ... either</gloss>
<gloss>is (neither ...) nor ...</gloss>
<gloss>nor is it ...</gloss>
<gloss>is not even ...</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>after a verb</s_inf>
<gloss>does not ... either</gloss>
<gloss>(neither ...) nor ...</gloss>
<gloss>does not even ...</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2006-09-06 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-09-18 01:22:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_detl>last sense seems to be arch... removing it rather 
improving on it (because it seems to be somewhat wrong: 
daijs  …らしくない。…に似合わない。 ).
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1st and 2nd sense to be the same?
_
the note is really messy. couldn't the same thing be 
accomplished with xrefs to でない or ではない and も？ 
_ 
the other "denying" can of course be explicit as well, " 
ああでもない、こうでもない"</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-i;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -11,10 +12,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;neither... nor... (with the implication that there are other "nor..." items)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;denying explicitly one thing and also denying implicitly other things as well&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;not like (you)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;not (your) usual self&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;it is not (like that)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;copula used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-09-18 06:11:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>yes, the note seems unnecessary to me.  is this actually a 'copula'?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +10,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;で (connective form of だ) + も + ない&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-09-18 12:20:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>N-grams:
でもない	13309623
でも無い	458957</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;でも無い&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -10,0 +15 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-09-20 05:05:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>still not sure this is a copula.  can an "exp,adj-i" be a copula?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-09-22 12:24:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think it is/can be.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;copula used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-06 10:07:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Tidier?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,2 +16 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;it is not (like that)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;it is not (like that) either&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-14 16:27:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I guess so.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-20 09:50:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +6 @@
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-21 20:14:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>It functions like a negative copula when it follows a noun or adjective but it can also be used with verbs. Some examples above from Twitter.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>"仕事をするでもなく趣味をするでもなくただ横になっているだけの日々"
"選ばれるために練習するでもないし、選ばれず悔しがるでもない"
"高尚な音楽聞くでもないのにノイキャンとかｗ"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16,13 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;it is not (like that) either&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;is not ... either&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;is (neither ...) nor ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;nor is it ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;is not even ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-i;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;after a verb&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;does not ... either&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(neither ...) nor ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;does not even ...&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-23 22:25:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>