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<k_ele>
<keb>逓信</keb>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf22</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ていしん</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf22</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&hist;</misc>
<gloss>communications (e.g. post, telegraph)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2146330">逓信省</xref>
<misc>&hist;</misc>
<misc>&abbr;</misc>
<gloss>Ministry of Communications and Transportation (dissolved in 1949)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2021-09-22 23:28:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijr</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16 @@
-<gloss>communications (e.g. post, tele.)</gloss>
+<gloss>communications (e.g. post, telegraph)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-22 23:33:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-12 11:47:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Suggest removing [news1]. ngrams disagree, and a current search of mainichi.jp doesn't return much, except historical articles.
site:mainichi.jp "逓信" ("about 432 articles", not much vs. [news1])
The other terms in jmdict 逓信大臣 and 逓信省 are both [hist]. Odd to suggest making an entire once-common noun [hist], but sankoku does not even have an entry for this term.
(by comparison, sankoku does still have 逓減, for example)
The (e.g.) is already trying to point at [hist], it seems.
Still survives in place names, such as 逓信病院
https://www.hospital.japanpost.jp/about/index.html
But it doesn't mean "communications" here. the gloss is "Tokyo Teishin Hospital".
xref gives context for usage("dissolved in 1949", in particular), without further complicating the gloss.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ngrams(tiny):
逓信 68609
逓信省 18340 [hist]
逓信病院 10493 legacy name of existing institution
逓信委員会 7378 [hist]
逓信総合博物館 7118 actual museum
逓信大臣 4509 [hist]
...</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2146330">逓信省</xref>
+<misc>&hist;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-12 12:02:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Demoting news1. I don't think that xref is appropriate.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +6 @@
-<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
@@ -11 +11 @@
-<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2146330">逓信省</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-13 23:58:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'm not sure if 逓信 by itself is historical. obs might be better.
Daijs and nikk have sense 2.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +18,7 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2146330">逓信省</xref>
+<misc>&hist;</misc>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>Ministry of Communications and Transportation (dissolved in 1949)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-09-14 02:21:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>