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<entry id="2275765" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1432680</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>痛い</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf16</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>甚い</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>いたい</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf16</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
<gloss>painful</gloss>
<gloss>sore</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
<misc>&col;</misc>
<gloss>cringy</gloss>
<gloss>embarrassing</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2017-12-19 09:31:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Do we maybe want to add an [int] "ouch" sense?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-12-24 22:13:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>probably ok without?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-27 09:04:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>wiktionary
"今すぐやめて!SNSで「イタい女」認定されちゃう投稿まとめ"
https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2149878833978295001</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +26,6 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;col;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;cringy&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;embarrassing&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-i;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-27 22:49:17" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-28 23:04:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Big note: sankoku makes a dedicated entry for 甚く・痛く, and does *not* include sense [3] under 痛い at all. Highly unusual for an adjective. [3] may be [arch] as [adj-i].

Can't say "esp. 甚い" on [3], since [3] is [uk], and 痛く is still more common than 甚く.  Fair enough that [3] is pretty much the only place 甚 is used. As daijs notes, when it is used it is not is いたい, but as いたく, which we have a separate entry for(where 甚い is not [rK]).

5 (甚い)程度のはなはだしいさま。*****多く、連用形を用いる。→甚(いた)く******

Curious how [suf] should apply to [3].  We don't use [suf] for adjectives like 深い (興味深い, and 20+ similar entries).  Seems to be reserved for things like にくい、やすい、etc. that modify verb stems (食べやすい、読みにくい) or くさい with [id] meanings ("smells-like"/seems-like).  I don't see how [3] could possibly do this...)

===

Aside: strong agree with Marcus from some years back on [int] "ouch!".  I can't think of a more natural Japanese interjection than that.
https://japaneseparticlesmaster.xyz/itai-in-japanese/
but can also work as an interjection, especially in speaking, to mean ‘ouch’ in Japanese.

https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%e7%97%9b%e3%81%84
痛い!
間投
ouch
ow〔突然の痛み〕

https://context.reverso.net/translation/japanese-english/%E7%97%9B%E3%81%84#ouch</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>This might be one of the proportionally rarest kanji forms I've ever seen
痛い	9757936	100.0%
甚い	110	0.0%

But as [3] (and only as [3]), this gets some use:
甚く	4732	0.0%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -32,4 +33,4 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;suf;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1369990"&gt;甚く&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1369990"&gt;甚く&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 甚い&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1369990"&gt;痛く&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;arch;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;rare except as いたく・痛く・甚く&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-29 00:29:14" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Trimming back sense 3. No sign it's "arch"; there's even an example sentence using it. Dropping the xref as I propose dropping the target entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -33,2 +32,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1369990"&gt;痛く&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1369990"&gt;痛く&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -36,2 +34 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;arch;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;rare except as いたく・痛く・甚く&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;rare except as いたく&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-29 01:55:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>As discussed in the いたく entry, we're dropping sense 3 altogether.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -30,6 +29,0 @@
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-i;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;rare except as いたく&lt;/s_inf&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;exceeding&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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