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<k_ele>
<keb>熊野詣で</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>熊野詣</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>くまのもうで</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2827498">熊野三山</xref>
<gloss>pilgrimage to the three main Kumano shrines</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2015-08-06 09:21:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>koj</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-06 09:49:07" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-31 07:12:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>daijs has the で, but the trailing で seems generally not required on 詣で terms. As an extreme example:
熊野詣の湯垢離場 204 54.5%
熊野詣での湯垢離場 170 45.5%
で seems to be applied somewhat haphazardly in the wikipedia article (sometimes there is a coincidental particle で, usually it is omitted, but it appears in some special cases).
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%86%8A%E9%87%8E%E4%B8%89%E5%B1%B1#%E7%86%8A%E9%87%8E%E4%BF%A1%E4%BB%B0
I'm also changing the xref from 熊野三社 to the more popular 熊野三山(wikipedia headword).
Along with daijs, an NHK article includes the で(though many other news sources do not). I guess I'll consider this "prescriptively preferred", or something like that. But ngrams suggest that the bare 熊野詣 should lead.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>熊野詣 13716 71.4%
熊野詣で 5498 28.6%
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熊野詣で 5498 11.0%
熊野詣 13716 27.4%
熊野三山 28890 57.7%
熊野三社 1965 3.9%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>熊野詣</keb>
@@ -12,2 +15,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2827497">熊野三社</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2827497">熊野三社</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2827498">熊野三山</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2827498">熊野三山</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-06-02 05:15:50" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, the で is often dropped. I think the entry is OK as-is.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>