jmdict
2841470
Active
(id:
2263635)
<entry id="2263635" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2841470</ent_seq>
<r_ele>
<reb>たーまや</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たーまやー</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たまやー</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たまや</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2841481">かーぎや</xref>
<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
<gloss>tamaya! (word shouted when viewing fireworks)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2019-09-12 18:57:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>https://www.hanabistore.com/tamaya.htm
http://www.tbs.co.jp/radio/kodomotel/etc/0030.html</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-12 23:28:04" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Reducing scope; 鍵屋 needs its own entry</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://allabout.co.jp/gm/gc/220614/</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>玉屋</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -5,4 +8 @@
-<reb>たーまやー</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かーぎやー</reb>
+<reb>たまや</reb>
@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>yells used when viewing fireworks, orig. from names of Edo period fireworks vendors</gloss>
+<gloss>yell used when viewing fireworks, orig. from names of Edo period fireworks vendors</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-13 03:20:05" stat="R">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>if this is a real sense that needs to be added, it belongs in 1828540 玉屋【たまや】</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-14 01:30:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Reviving the original, as I think these are worth recording. If it goes in I don't think it should be merged with 玉屋 or 鍵屋 as was suggested:
(a) as the "yell" sense only applies to these readings, which in turn don't apply to the other sense(s) (breaking the 2/3 convention.)
(b) it would make a mess of restrictions.
I don't think the "...っ" versions are needed.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.hanabistore.com/tamaya.htm
たーまやー 5876
たまやー 1868
たーまや 6540
かーぎやー 534
かーぎや 730
かぎやー 723
たーまやーっ 102
かーぎやーっ 34
たまやーっ 57</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,3 +4,6 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>玉屋</keb>
-</k_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たーまや</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たーまやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -9,0 +13,9 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かーぎや</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かーぎやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かぎやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -12 +24,3 @@
-<gloss>yell used when viewing fireworks, orig. from names of Edo period fireworks vendors</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1828540">玉屋・たまや・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2563110">鍵屋・かぎや</xref>
+<gloss>shouts used when viewing fireworks (from names of Edo-period fireworks vendors)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-14 17:22:01" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>temp approve</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-14 17:22:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>given that the たまや and the かぎやー are of different etymological origins, should we really be merging these?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-15 11:42:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Probably better to split.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,9 +12,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かーぎや</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かーぎやー</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かぎやー</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -25 +16 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2563110">鍵屋・かぎや</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2841481">かーぎや</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-27 03:48:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Opencooper</upd_name>
<upd_detl>"Tamaya" isn't a word for the shout, but what is shouted itself. Moving etymological info to note. Though the x-ref is the kanji for the vendor, it's not listed at the target, instead pointing to "jeweler", making it more confusing than helpful.
If this is accepted, I'll make the same changes to 「かーぎや」.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=106</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,3 @@
+<reb>たまやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -15 +17,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1828540">玉屋・たまや・1</xref>
@@ -17 +19,2 @@
-<gloss>shouts used when viewing fireworks (from names of Edo-period fireworks vendors)</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
+<gloss>tamaya! (shout used when viewing fireworks)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-27 18:49:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,2 +19,2 @@
-<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
-<gloss>tamaya! (shout used when viewing fireworks)</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor; shouted when viewing fireworks</s_inf>
+<gloss>tamaya!</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-28 22:01:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think the gloss needs to be more than just a romanization. See the discussion on よいしょ.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,2 +19,2 @@
-<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor; shouted when viewing fireworks</s_inf>
-<gloss>tamaya!</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
+<gloss>tamaya! (word shouted when viewing fireworks)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-29 01:57:35" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think that's a sound approach.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>