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<entry id="2237819" stat="D" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2561460</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>採掘師</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>さいくつし</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&rare;</misc>
<gloss>miner</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-07-24 11:53:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brandon Kentel</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-07-24 16:43:50" stat="A">
<upd_uid>paul</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Paul Blay</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>http://www.ff14-jp.com/index.php?%E6%8E%A1%E6%8E%98%E5%B8%AB
採掘師 (さいくつし/Miner)</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-15 19:28:20" stat="D" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The web results for this are almost entirely gaming-related (mostly Final Fantasy). Nothing in the usual refs. No hits on Reverso or Google news. I don't think it should be an entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-15 23:04:58" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>採掘師 1028</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-16 05:08:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I was going to comment that given the number of WWW hits, it should be recorded somehow. It's not really a proper name - more a fictional occupation. The key thing is to avoid the impression that it's a synonym for 鉱山労働者 or 炭坑夫.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>miner</gloss>
+<gloss>miner (in games, esp. Final Fantasy)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-16 12:04:05" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>I don't think that note improves on the entry. Better to just tag it as rare so that people don't end up using it from reverse searches.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>miner (in games, esp. Final Fantasy)</gloss>
+<misc>&rare;</misc>
+<gloss>miner</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-16 22:26:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>It's not really "rare". It's just not used in the real word (i.e. outside video games).
But it's not widely used in gaming either. It's a character class in Final Fantasy, which explains the reasonably high n-gram count. I don't think it belongs in jmdict (or jmnedict). This is a general-purpose dictionary, not a Final Fantasy Wiki.
Also, given that we have an entry for 師, the meaning isn't difficult to deduce.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-16 22:56:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I also think that these are probably too niche and too compositional for a general purpose dictionary</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://ff14wiki.info/%E3%82%AF%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9
List of other classes in final fantasy 14.
N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬───────╮
│ 格闘士 │ 2,708 │ - pugilist
│ 双剣士 │ 2,654 │ - rogue
│ 幻術士 │ 1,450 │ - conjurer
│ 呪術士 │ 1,361 │ - thaumaturge
│ 採掘師 │ 1,028 │ - miner (this entry)
│ 弓術士 │ 715 │ - archer
│ 園芸師 │ 621 │ - botanist
│ 剣術士 │ 370 │ - gladiator
│ 槍術士 │ 153 │ - lancer
│ 斧術士 │ 22 │ - marauder
│ 巴術士 │ 0 │ - arcanist
╰─ーーー─┴───────╯
None of the above (other than "miner") are in JMdict</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-17 03:20:58" stat="D">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I feel it/they should be recorded somewhere, but I agree not here.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>