<entry id="2229771" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1008920</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>どう言う</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>如何いう</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>如何言う</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>どういう</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-pn;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>what kind of</gloss>
<gloss>what sort of</gloss>
<gloss>what</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-05-07 15:09:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nils Roland Barth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Link to どんな</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +18,1 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1009330"&gt;どんな&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-05-08 08:37:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +18,1 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1009330"&gt;どんな・1&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -19,1 +20,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1009330"&gt;どんな・1&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-02-10 11:31:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>reordering, adding [spec1]</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
どう言う	 160947
如何いう	   3333
如何言う	   1687
どういう	9246980</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5 +5,2 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;如何いう&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;どう言う&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -8 +9 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;どう言う&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;如何いう&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -14,0 +16 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/re_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-02-10 11:53:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-10-20 00:33:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think "somehow" "why" etc. are really 
correct.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>reverso</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,4 +21,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;somehow&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;how&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;in what way&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;why&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -26,0 +23,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;what sort of&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;what&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-10-20 05:44:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-04-30 19:47:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Please see longer thoughts on どうしようもない.  I cherry-picked this one additional entry to look at, and it's the only other one I will touch as part of this question.

Question is: can we start using [sK] on 如何/どう entries (other than どう itself) that don't have exceptionally high occurrences of the kanji form (maybe a kotowaza or something might lean on old kanji, I don't know).

Comment is: On any dictionary app that displays the first kanji form prominently (even with a [uk] marking), we have a lot of entries with 如何 displayed(jmdictdb's own advanced search results, and jisho.org are two examples).  This seems to me like a kanji form that a learner at an appropriate level can internalize, and not have spelled out in every entry using どう.  Conversely, it seems like a distraction for any non-advanced learner.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>どういう	9246980	98.2%
どう言う	160947	1.7%
如何いう	3333	0.0%
如何言う	1687	0.0%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -12,0 +14 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-04-30 21:28:02" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I can't see any problem with adding sK to the 如何 forms. Some may get rK instead of the kokugos have them.
In WWWJDIC the kanji forms shunted back for uk entries.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-05-01 18:32:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think the x-ref is needed.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +5,0 @@
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -22 +20,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1009330"&gt;どんな・1&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>