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<entry id="2228697" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2624760</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>胴付鋸</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>胴付き鋸</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>胴付きノコ</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>胴付きのこ</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>どうつきのこ</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>どうづきのこ</reb>
<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>saw with a spine</gloss>
<gloss>tenon saw</gloss>
<gloss>back saw</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-04-11 18:27:08" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_refs>wiki http://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/d/doutsukinoko.htm</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-14 12:43:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+&lt;re_restr&gt;胴付鋸&lt;/re_restr&gt;
@@ -15,0 +16,1 @@
+&lt;re_restr&gt;胴付鋸&lt;/re_restr&gt;
@@ -21,1 +23,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;type of Japanese saw&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;saw with a spine&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tenon saw&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;back saw&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-14 16:30:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>wiki</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,1 +11,1 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;うつきのこ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;どうつきのこ&lt;/reb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-14 22:24:58" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-04-13 07:05:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I haven't fixed the "readings" section.   Might be simpler to make two entries and xref them (or just leave them as two independent entries).

Combining the のこ and のこぎり suffixes in one entry gets a little unwieldy.  This seems to be the only "saw" entry that has attempted it.

I'm not sure we can claim that the kanji has one reading or the other.  My intuition (from looking at hacksaws for a few hours) is that のこぎり would be the kanji reading, and ノコ would be an abbreviated, popular form. (hence the common representation in katakana). If のこ was *already* the kanji reading, I don't know why people would go out of their way to lengthen it.

Take for example daijs for metal/hacksaw:
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E9%87%91%E9%8B%B8-465416
かね‐のこぎり【金鋸】 

But I can't imagine how you'd nail this down.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>胴付鋸	154	39.4%
胴付き鋸	113	28.9%
胴付きノコ	65	16.6%
胴付きのこ	25	6.4%
胴付きノコギリ	34	8.7%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,12 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;胴付き鋸&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;胴付きノコ&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;胴付きのこ&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;胴付きノコギリ&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-04-16 01:42:52" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, it's too messy. I'll split it.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,6 +15,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;胴付きノコギリ&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;胴付きのこぎり&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -24 +17,0 @@
-&lt;re_restr&gt;胴付鋸&lt;/re_restr&gt;
@@ -28,4 +21 @@
-&lt;re_restr&gt;胴付鋸&lt;/re_restr&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;どうつきのこぎり&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;sk;&lt;/re_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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