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<k_ele>
<keb>幽愁</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ゆうしゅう</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1540830">憂愁・ゆうしゅう</xref>
<misc>&rare;</misc>
<gloss>melancholy</gloss>
<gloss>gloom</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2023-04-11 15:36:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Dropping the "contemplation" gloss first. I just wrote a novel on how 孤愁 is not "lonely contemplation". I don't see any justification for "contemplation" on this term out in the wild.
oxford: 心の奥にある（＝幽）深い悲しみ。
noun
1. melancholy
2. gloom
After a post this, I will propose deleting and merging with the xref.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>幽愁 501
幽愁の 155
幽愁を 41
幽愁に 25</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12,4 @@
-<gloss>deep contemplation</gloss>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1540830">憂愁・ゆうしゅう</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1540830">憂愁・ゆうしゅう</xref>
+<misc>&rare;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-04-11 15:45:43" stat="D" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This relatively-rare term shares a reading with another term that has, let's say, "an extremely similar" meaning.
Propose adding this kanji as [rK] to the xref and deleting this entry. (I think I would prefer rK to sK in this instance)
sankoku has the xref, but not this term.
Big Japanese dictionaries list these separately.
But if our glosses cannot identify any meaningful difference in nuance, then it seems like we might as well stick them together and make everyone's lives simpler. I found other references that have done this already (refs). Seems like we've merged terms for less than this.
For what it's worth, MacOS IME won't produce this term, I have to copy/paste pieces around to build it.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>憂愁 36390 98.6%
幽愁 501 1.4%
MERGED TOGETHER:
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/en/%E6%86%82%E6%84%81/
憂愁の英訳 - 小学館 プログレッシブ和英中辞典
ゆうしゅう【憂愁・幽愁】
melancholy; gloom
一家は憂愁に閉ざされていた
An atmosphere of gloom settled over the family.／The whole family was in a melancholy [gloomy] mood.
今後の見通しに関しては関係当局の間に憂愁の色が濃い
The authorities concerned are very anxious about the outlook for the future.
Listed side-by-side, but with different explanations (can you identify a difference?)
http://www.nihonjiten.com/data/12794.html
幽愁、憂愁
ゆうしゅう
[幽愁、憂愁]
幽愁
幽愁に閉ざされる【意】深い心配事
憂愁
憂愁のまなざし【意】心を離れることのない悲しみ･心配</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-04-11 21:46:59" stat="D">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I've done the merge. See the editorial policy section on merging.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
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