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jmdict 1612750 Active (id: 2223983)
<entry id="2223983" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1612750</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>行けません</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>いけません</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1000730">行けない・1</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>wrong</gloss>
<gloss>not good</gloss>
<gloss>of no use</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1000730">行けない・4</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>hopeless</gloss>
<gloss>past hope</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1000730">行けない・2</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>must not do</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<gloss g_type="lit">cannot go</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-11-04 01:01:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Hendrik</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Added another meaning (common usage). It seems to me that this addition belongs under sense 1, since (literally translated) it means, "it is wrong/no good/no use if one doesn't [verb]" 

I am not sure whether you would accept a separate entry for 〜ないといけません, but i think it would be helpful in all those cases where this construction shows up in a text put through "Translate Words".</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +18,1 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;(after verb stem + ないと) must ...&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-11-09 10:35:53" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think it's overloading the entry to add that to sense 1. Re ないといけません, we have a ないといけない entry already, so adding another won't hurt.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,1 +13,1 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・1&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -18,1 +18,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;(after verb stem + ないと) must ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -22,0 +21,1 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・2&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -27,0 +27,1 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・3&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-06-26 11:12:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>seems unlikely that only sense 1 is uk</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -30,0 +32 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-06-26 15:52:27" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-11-09 09:59:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-08 11:39:55" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Literal sense</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -32,0 +33,4 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;cannot go&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-15 06:06:41" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not sure it's needed.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -35 +35 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;cannot go&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;cannot go&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-03-08 01:56:36" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Aligning.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -22 +22 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・2&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・4&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -29 +29 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・3&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1000730"&gt;行けない・2&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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