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<k_ele>
<keb>三遍回って煙草にしょ</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>三べん回って煙草にしょ</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>三べん回ってたばこにしょ</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>さんべんまわってタバコにしょ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<misc>&proverb;</misc>
<gloss>measure twice and cut once</gloss>
<gloss>don't slack off until the job's done properly</gloss>
<gloss g_type="lit">go around three times before you take a smoke</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2022-12-05 23:36:58" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>"go around" or "patrol"</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs
edo iroha karuta proverb</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-12-06 03:11:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I assume that was a typo...</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>さんべんまわってタバコにしよ</reb>
+<reb>さんべんまわってタバコにしょ</reb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-14 20:30:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>The 三べん form is in sankoku
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーー─┬─────┬───────╮
│ 三べん回って │ 694 │ 77.9% │
│ 三遍回って │ 197 │ 22.1% │
│ さんべんまわって │ 0 │ 0.0% │
╰─ーーーーーーーー─┴─────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>三べん回って煙草にしょ</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-14 22:44:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think the case for [sK] is that strong.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5: 三べん回ってたばこにしょ. Let's make sure the job's done properly before we take a break. | Don't slack off until the job's done properly.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +9,3 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>三べん回ってたばこにしょ.</keb>
@@ -17,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>don't slack off until the job's done properly</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-14 23:07:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>{3編,三遍,三べん,さんべん}{回って,廻って,まわって}{煙草,タバコ,たばこ}にしょ
4 x 3 x 3 = 36 different forms we could have
My two cents: I think it makes sense to liberally apply [sK] tags in long expressions like this.
It takes time and energy for readers to spot the differences between these forms and decide if the information is important.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-14 23:08:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>removing a stray period</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +11 @@
-<keb>三べん回ってたばこにしょ.</keb>
+<keb>三べん回ってたばこにしょ</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-14 23:19:40" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>That said, with 三べん more common than 三遍 it would be good to keep one of those visible. Happy to see the GG5 version hidden.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>回って煙草にしょ 601
回ってたばこにしょ 0</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>