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<entry id="2221788" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2857233</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>体系だった</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>体系立った</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たいけいだった</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
<gloss>structured (e.g. information)</gloss>
<gloss>integral (e.g. knowledge)</gloss>
<gloss>systematic</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2023-01-15 14:10:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>mark dufour</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>encountered as 'taikeidatta chishiki wo eyou to omottara..'

cannot find a satisfactory english word for it though.. (and not sure about adj-f)

体系立った	1780
体系立てる	280 (note the reference is for this one)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.weblio.jp/content/%E4%BD%93%E7%B3%BB%E7%AB%8B%E3%81%A6%E3%82%8B</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-22 13:40:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>mark dufour</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>native friends mentions the word 'integral' as in integral knowledge</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-10 23:18:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think this is probably OK. The meaning is certainly not obvious from the parts. I see the 新英和大辞典 has 組織立った as a gloss for "systematic", indicating that 立った is being used that way.
BTW, I suspect our 立つ entry could do with some work. We have 3 senses and GG5 &amp; 中辞典 have 11 and 12.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>体系立って	1056</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;structured&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;structured (e.g. information)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;integral (e.g. knowledge)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;systematic&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-11 00:12:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ 体系だった   │ 9,581 │ 84.3% │ - adding
│ 体系立った   │ 1,780 │ 15.7% │
├─ーーーーーーー─┼───────┼───────┤
│ 体系だった知識 │   695 │ 89.4% │
│ 体系立った知識 │    82 │ 10.6% │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;体系だった&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-12 21:24:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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