<entry id="2216240" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2854459</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>二皿</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>２皿</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ふたさら</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>two plates</gloss>
<gloss>two helpings</gloss>
<gloss>two servings</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2022-05-05 05:03:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marv</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I heard it pronounced that way in a game.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-07 08:55:22" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>一皿  ひとさら
三皿  みさら? さんさら? - there are sites saying both
四皿  よんさら
七皿 ななさら / しちさら
To what extent do we want to cover these slightly irregular counting forms? There are many of them.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://quizlet.com/437662989/%E7%9A%BF-%E3%81%95%E3%82%89-plates-dishes-flash-cards/</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;two helpings&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;two servings&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-09 04:35:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>An alert that I'll delete this soon if no one wants to keep or expand it.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-09 19:19:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>By my count, NHK's new accent dictionary has pronunciation info for
around 250 counters. For most of the counters, it enumerates
pronunciations from 1 to 20 (e.g. １皿, ２皿, ..., ２０皿) and with 何
(e.g. 何皿). For some select counters (e.g. 円), it goes all the way
to 100 and additionally includes 千 and １万.

This information could surely be added programmatically to JMdict,
although I'm not sure what sort of copyright or attribution
limitations may apply.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-11 01:42:52" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't have access to that. Are you able to send it to me?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-12 04:05:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I personally don't have anything to send. The dictionary has been
published in an app for iPhone and Android, and there's a user on
reddit who seems to have been able to pull all of the pitch
accent data from it (although the counter forms don't appear to
be included). So there must be some way to extract the data.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.monokakido.nhkaccent
https://www.monokakido.jp/en/dictionaries/nhkaccent2/index.html
https://www.monokakido.jp/ja/android/nhkaccent2/</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-14 02:39:53" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I've had a chance to dig into the NHK accent dictionary, and it confirms the ふたさら pronunciation and also the さんさら/みさら situation with 三皿. I'll approve this temporarily to shorten the ques but leave it here as a reminder. It would be good to get a long-term solution to the issue of the readings of numerics+counters.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-14 02:40:14" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Reopen.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-12-19 22:43:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I've created an issue for this (https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/82) so I'm closing this entry edit.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>