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<entry id="2215086" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2173520</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>然らば</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>さらば</reb>
<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>farewell</gloss>
<gloss>goodbye</gloss>
<gloss>adieu</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&conj;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<misc>&dated;</misc>
<gloss>if so</gloss>
<gloss>in that case</gloss>
<gloss>then</gloss>
<gloss>and (then)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2007-05-30 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-01 18:13:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>luce</upd_name>
<upd_detl>should the archaic meaning be moved last?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>n-grams
然らば 618
さらば 17255</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -25,0 +27 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-01 19:57:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>sense 1 is old-timey but not arch. sense 2 appears to be arch</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,2 +12 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -19 +17,0 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -21,2 +19,4 @@
-<gloss>however (with neg)</gloss>
-<gloss>though that may be the case (with neg)</gloss>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<s_inf>accompanied by a negative</s_inf>
+<gloss>however</gloss>
+<gloss>though that may be the case</gloss>
@@ -25,2 +25 @@
-<pos>&conj;</pos>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&int;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-01 19:58:14" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>reopen. i like the sense ordering the way it is (by PoS). others can decide</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-04 01:22:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK with me so far, but I'll reopen with a question.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-04 01:24:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Should we be considering a merge with 1953260:
然らば (しからば) (conj) (uk) if so; if it be so; in that case; then ??
Looks awfully like sense 1 here.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-09-05 22:55:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>-farewell is far an away the most common use of this term now, i think
-they could be merged, however, they only share the (new) sense 2</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>farewell</gloss>
+</sense>
@@ -24,5 +28,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&int;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>farewell</gloss>
-</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-09-10 00:20:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Given sense 1 dominates, best not to merge.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-12-04 02:57:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>[dated]?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-12-04 05:03:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Dunno. It'd in the JEs and we have example sentences for the first two senses.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-12-06 00:07:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Meikyo and Shinmeikai have "古い言い方で"/"古風な表現" on sense 2 but not sense 1.
I don't think the arch sense is needed.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5
然らば 14494 1.8%
さらば 779014 98.2%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -8,0 +10 @@
+<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
@@ -13,0 +16,2 @@
+<gloss>goodbye</gloss>
+<gloss>adieu</gloss>
@@ -18 +22,2 @@
-<gloss>be that so</gloss>
+<misc>&dated;</misc>
+<gloss>if so</gloss>
@@ -20,8 +25,2 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&conj;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<misc>&arch;</misc>
-<s_inf>accompanied by a negative</s_inf>
-<gloss>however</gloss>
-<gloss>though that may be the case</gloss>
+<gloss>then</gloss>
+<gloss>and (then)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-12-06 02:00:15" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>