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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>塩辛い</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf47</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>鹹い</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>しおからい</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf47</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>からい</reb>
<re_restr>鹹い</re_restr>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
<gloss>salty (taste)</gloss>
<gloss>briny</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-12-29 02:45:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>winnie</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +19,1 @@
+<gloss>briny</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-12-30 05:18:15" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-13 00:46:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>not listed as such in daij etc. - but in the daijs 五味
entry:
"1 5種の味覚。物の味の5種。甘さ・酸(す)っぱさ・辛(から)さ・苦(にが)さ・鹹(し
おから)さ。2 " (daijr: "甘い・辛い・苦い・酸っぱい・塩辛いの五種の味。")
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wiki 鹹い redirs to 塩味 and has this in the text:
"東日本では、一般的に「しょっぱい」と表現をするが、西日本では「塩辛い(鹹い:
しおからい)」あるいは単に「辛い」と表している"
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%A9%E5%91%B3
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daijr also has an entry for 鹹い しおはゆ・い (given as 鹹映ゆい
in daijs and 鹹映・塩映 in nikk): " 「しおばゆい」とも。中世・近世語
しおからい。しょっぱい。"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +9,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>鹹い</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-13 02:05:59" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-17 23:15:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>removed from entry for からい as there were too many sense restrictions</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +19,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>からい</reb>
+<re_restr>鹹い</re_restr>
+</r_ele></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-17 23:25:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Fair enough.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-10-13 00:33:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>鹹い is surely rare for both しおからい and からい</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 塩辛い │ 92,304 │ 97.9% │
│ 鹹い │ 572 │ 0.6% │
│ しおからい │ 1,360 │ 1.4% │
│ からい │ 431,684 │ N/A │
╰─ーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-10-13 02:28:51" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes. It doesn't fit in anywhere that well.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-10-13 21:57:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>it's not rare for からい because it's the only acceptable kanji for that reading...</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-10-13 22:22:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>辛い is also an acceptable kanji form for this meaning and reading. It's just split into a separate entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-10-14 05:58:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Indeed.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>辛い 7334341
鹹い 572
からい 431684</upd_refs>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>