<entry id="2210774" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2664520</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>堪ったものではない</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たまったものではない</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1211340">堪らない・たまらない・1</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>emphatic form of 堪らない</s_inf>
<gloss>intolerable</gloss>
<gloss>unbearable</gloss>
<gloss>unendurable</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1211340">堪らない・たまらない・2</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>tremendous</gloss>
<gloss>out of this world</gloss>
<gloss>irresistible</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1211340">堪らない・たまらない・3</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>cannot help (doing)</gloss>
<gloss>cannot but do</gloss>
<gloss>anxious to do</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-10-22 16:38:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Paul Upchurch</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Not sure if it's used for all 3 senses from 堪らない or not.
Also seen as, e.g., たまったものでない or たまったもんじゃない.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs
Google results:
"たまったものではない" 6,590,000
"堪ったものではない" 238,000</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-10-22 23:31:41" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;Strengthened form of 堪らない&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;emphatic form of 堪らない&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-02-12 07:55:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>swapping senses 2 &amp; 3 to match 堪らない</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,3 +23,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;cannot help (doing)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;cannot but do&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;anxious to do&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tremendous&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;out of this world&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;irresistible&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -31,3 +31,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;tremendous&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;out of this world&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;irresistible&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;cannot help (doing)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;cannot but do&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;anxious to do&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-02-13 00:50:03" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-08 08:35:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Can we shorten this to たまったもの and also include たまったもん?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>たまったものではない	27911
たまったものじゃない	9354
たまったもんではない	2324
たまったもんじゃない	53744</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-09 21:12:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think that would work. How would it be glossed?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-10 02:33:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think there's an easy way out of this one. All 4 versions are common enough to include, yet merging them makes for a mess of restrictions. I think I'll just add the other 3 and be done with it.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>堪ったものではない	1887
堪ったものじゃない	503
堪ったもんではない	118
堪ったもんじゃない	2624</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-15 23:47:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Since the 4 variant kanji forms make up less than 5% of the usage for the たまったものではない family, can we now clump them together with [sK] on all the kanji forms? It seems a way out that wasn't available last year.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-10-03 06:23:39" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Obviously little interest in that idea.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>