<entry id="2209614" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1001420</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>屁</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>おなら</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>オナラ</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>wind</gloss>
<gloss>gas</gloss>
<gloss>fart</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-04-28 16:34:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>daijr list these separately and does not indicate that 屁 can 
be read as おなら. daijr only lists "something worthless" as a 
sense for へ. I suggest these are split</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,0 +23,5 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;stagr&gt;へ&lt;/stagr&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;something worthless&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-30 06:58:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>koj:
お‐なら【屁】
（「鳴らす」より）屁[へ]。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -27,0 +27,1 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;something not worth considering&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-30 07:49:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>If おなら comes from お鳴らし, isn't that one more argument for 
splitting?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>jawiki also only lists へ as a reading of 屁
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B1%81

difference in nuance too, 屁 is more vulgar (though maybe 
not necessarily [vulg])

"「おなら」は「お鳴らし」が略されてできた女房言葉で、「屁」よりも上品（あるい
は婉曲）な言い方であるとされている。" (wiki)

"「屁」なんて言うと下品に下品がおんぶして、いても立ってもいられなかったはずだ"
http://gakuen.gifu-
net.ed.jp/~cont1/tyu_kokugo/tyukokugo/column/column_11/onara
.html</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-30 07:59:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>no.  why would we split if they have the same headword and meaning?  etymology doesn't play into it</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-30 09:22:08" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>OK, point taken on etymology, but I still think they should 
be split. Although 屁 can be read as "onara" according to 
one or two dictionaries, it isn't, really, ever read as おな
ら over へ. They are two different words, one more vulgar 
than the other (へ could perhaps be tagged [col] or 
[vulgar], おなら probably not), and they only share half of 
the glosses. Usage is different too: you say へをこく but not 
really おならをこく. Also おなら is [uk], while へ is't.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-04 23:22:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>One wit said that lexicographers are divided into "splitters and clumpers". I'm fairly much in the clumper camp, which is probably why JMdict is the way it is.
That said, I agree that へ/おなら is a real borderline case, and is a shining example of the messiness of Japanese orthography. If there was a clean usage split between へ and おなら, e.g. one was always polite/clinical and the other was always col/vulg, I'd put them in different senses with comments to indicate usage, but it seems both are used in both applications.
On balance I think they should stay in the one entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-05 03:45:35" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-22 17:57:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This should be two entries. It doesn't make sense to tag this as "uk" when へ is almost always written with kanji. Also, with the exception of koj, my refs don't even have kanji for おなら.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-24 00:42:36" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK, splitting.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>おなら	277203
オナラ	127902</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;へ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;オナラ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;
@@ -18 +18,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;usually 屁 is へ, and おなら is in kana&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -22,6 +21,0 @@
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;stagr&gt;へ&lt;/stagr&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;something worthless&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;something not worth considering&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-24 14:59:28" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>https://furigana.info/w/%E5%B1%81</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +6 @@
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>