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<entry id="2209232" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1289400</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>今日は</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>今日わ</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>こんにちは</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>こんにちわ</reb>
<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>こにちわ</reb>
<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>こにちは</reb>
<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&int;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>は is pronounced as わ</s_inf>
<gloss>hello</gloss>
<gloss>good day</gloss>
<gloss>good afternoon</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-02-17 00:34:12" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Moving こんちは to こんちゃ</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5 (also has "good morning")</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,3 +11,0 @@
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;こんちは&lt;/reb&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
@@ -18 +15 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;こんちは is col.&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;used during daytime&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -20 +17,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;good day (daytime greeting)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;good day&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;good afternoon&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-17 20:42:14" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-04-28 20:15:01" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;used during daytime&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;は is pronounced as わ; used during daytime&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-04-29 01:26:20" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not sure that is needed, given we also have it on は.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-18 10:51:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Suggesting we merge in こんにちわ</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +8,4 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;今日わ&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -10,0 +15,13 @@
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;こんにちわ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/re_pri&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;こにちわ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;sk;&lt;/re_inf&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;こにちは&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;sk;&lt;/re_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-18 21:53:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-19 20:57:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think こんにちわ should be tagged as irregular. Also, given that こんにちわ is pronounced identically to こんにちは, I think we can consider こんにちわ a reading of 今日は (and therefore drop the [nokanji] tag).
I don't think "used during daytime" note is needed. It can be inferred from the glosses.
Do we really need こにちわ and こにちは, even as sk forms? Aren't they just typos?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +18 @@
-&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;ik;&lt;/re_inf&gt;
@@ -32 +32 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;は is pronounced as わ; used during daytime&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;は is pronounced as わ&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-19 23:07:42" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-20 13:08:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I agree こんにちわ can be considered an ik of "今日は".

I think it makes sense to look at absolute numbers when deciding what to include as sk/sK (something that should maybe be discussed on the Github). I don't think it makes sense to add sk/sK forms that barely register in the ngrams (which we have been doing in some obscure-ish entries), but these misspelled forms (that I think used to be included in the こんにちわ entry or somewhere) do get a couple of thousand hits. I wouldn't mind excluding them but since removing them in the first place did meet with some opposition from Jim (IIRC?), I figured he'd want to include them now that we can do so pretty painlessly.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-21 00:15:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Indeed. Good as [sk] forms.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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